Motard riding techniques...

[Quasievil]

Hiya dude, this might interest you, its on Sportsbike, download the pdf for how to back it in, very interesting.
http://sportsbike.co.nz/forums/showt...hlight=backing

[AlBundy]

This pic demonstrates different styles.
From what I can tell, the guys who are predominately road riders tend to hang off, while the ones who have mostly been motoX/trail riders, sit more on top of the bike with the foot out, backin it in styles.

I guess it's just a matter of getting out there and developing your own technique.

Thanks for the pic.

Couldn't have found a better example of the two styles if I tried...

Hiya dude, this might interest you, its on Sportsbike, download the pdf for how to back it in, very interesting.
http://sportsbike.co.nz/forums/showt...hlight=backing

Thanks... Seen that and taken on board for future reference...

[NordieBoy]

If you're on top of the bike in the corner you have more control if/when it slips/grips suddenly. You've also got better sight lines up higher.

If you're hanging off the side and get a slip-grip it's probably highside terrortory.
On top of the bike it's less likely to have as painfull results.

Hanging off also takes more strength/effort changing direction than sitting up too.
How many 1 armed knee draggers do you see racing?

[AlBundy]

If you're on top of the bike in the corner you have more control if/when it slips/grips suddenly. You've also got better sight lines up higher.

If you're hanging off the side and get a slip-grip it's probably highside terrortory.
On top of the bike it's less likely to have as painfull results.

Hanging off also takes more strength/effort changing direction than sitting up too.
How many 1 armed knee draggers do you see racing?

I've heard of a few incidents with sticking your foot out the front, vs just vertical along the side of the bike... Mostly when the front let go mid-corner... The bars do can hurt/damage the knee as it washes out... Luck of the draw maybe?

A few pics... And a classic for Nordie, Crasher etc...

[NordieBoy]

A few more pics from over the years.

http://fran.nelson.geek.nz/motorbikes/motard/

[vroom]

We have a specific Supermoto training video for sale by one of the top US riders that's worth watching.

[Quasievil]

We have a specific Supermoto training video for sale by one of the top US riders that's worth watching.

Name and details on it ?? and how old and how much dude ?

[Mikkel]

I'd say choosing your style depends on the situation.

I am pretty confident that on a nice surface around a fast sweeping corner the road riding technique will be faster... Quite simply the weight and dynamics of such a turn ought to favour that riding style.

If you're racing it's just as much a fight for position, so if you can come in and block the other guy's line you don't actually have to take a faster liner through the corner.

On dodgy surfaces, or if you intentionally are trying to back it in, staying on top feels as if you have more control that's for sure. Also, the further you lean over the bike the easier it'll be to spin up the rear tyre. I had a bit of fun with that on my way to uni today - slightly damp roads and such only a little bit though.

I'd like to throw in my support to crasherfromwayback's statement about riding in the sand. It's easy to spin it up in the sand and you can get a good feel for how the bike behaves when it's not gripping... oh, and it's a lot of fun. Just remember to wash your bike when you get back home, saltwater is nasty.

[AlBundy]

I'd say choosing your style depends on the situation.

I am pretty confident that on a nice surface around a fast sweeping corner the road riding technique will be faster... Quite simply the weight and dynamics of such a turn ought to favour that riding style.

If you're racing it's just as much a fight for position, so if you can come in and block the other guy's line you don't actually have to take a faster liner through the corner.

On dodgy surfaces, or if you intentionally are trying to back it in, staying on top feels as if you have more control that's for sure. Also, the further you lean over the bike the easier it'll be to spin up the rear tyre. I had a bit of fun with that on my way to uni today - slightly damp roads and such only a little bit though.

I'd like to throw in my support to crasherfromwayback's statement about riding in the sand. It's easy to spin it up in the sand and you can get a good feel for how the bike behaves when it's not gripping... oh, and it's a lot of fun. Just remember to wash your bike when you get back home, saltwater is nasty.

Yeah.

Suppose it boils down to experimenting and getting away from doing the normal thing... Trying different styles, even though they may be slower. Better than not trying them at all...

I must admit, the road style feels totally alien on the DRZ. It just feels wrong. That said, the roads have been damp and gritty, so the motard style just works...

[vroom]

Name and details on it ?? and how old and how much dude ?

"Gary Trachy 357 Learn To Ride Supermoto DVD

This is an instructional DVD from AMA Supermoto Pro racer Gary Trachy. Much of his teachings come from his years of experience holding supermoto schools.

Excellent for riders new to Supermoto!"

$39.95 including postage, we also have the latest issue of Supermoto Racer magazine just arrived. ($14.95) Mad Aussi should have copies in Hamilton.

http://supermotoracer.co.nz/

[SeppoDave]

Is the supermotoracer website down? I can't click on any links.

[GaZBur]

Is the supermotoracer website down? I can't click on any links.

The images appear to be placeholders for a site still being constructed as the source shows no actual links at all. If the designer is reading this can I suggest getting rid of the ultra tacky 1950's style pin up girl.

[vroom]

Correct, site is still being worked on as that is just a holding page while it's done. Links will be working tomorrow for online shop.

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

I think the thing to remember is that whether to back it in or not depends on the turn, a tight 90 degree turn might neccessitate it to slide it sideways under brakes to turn it, which enables you to get on the gas sooner. A more gradual turn however is best taken with the wheels pointing in the same direction.

its a falicy to back it in for the sake of it just cos thats what SM riders do. sure backing it in will be benficial on go cart tracks where predominantly most of the SM racing takes place cos they are so tight, but on a car/bike circuit backing it in on anything but the most tightest of hairpins will slow you down.

[vtec]

Yeah totally agree, only back it in on the tight corners. When I was racing 600's Jay Lawrence who was noticeably faster than me used to back it in to hairpins, but I was still pretty good on the brakes, and found the back end of my cbr600 stepping out regularly, and it never felt in danger of causing me to crash.

On supertight circuits and kart circuits, backing it in works really well, cause it gets the bike pointing in the right direction really fast, and you don't need to rely on your front wheel as much. Relying on your front wheel to make tight turns is more likely to cause a lowside especially in a tight lowspeed corner. Motards are unbeatable in tight corners, and their uncanny ability to back it in totally controlled helps that.