Veitch - lucky his car was well tuned

[Tank]

I think that the entire 'trial by media thing sucks' - generally because it is so often wrong.

But - that's part of the price of being in the limelight. People know that going in.

The fact is he has admitted to 'lashing out' - That's never OK. (Just has he says in the adverts). And he tried to use the money at his disposal to get out of the consequences of his actions (I do know that paying money is still a consequence - but he only did this because he had the funds and the consequences were going to be worse - possibly jail time).

Nobody can argue with that - its all public domain and he has admitted it.

So I have no issue that he lost his jobs and is off TV nor that he is facing criminal charges and jail time.

Indeed - I'm supportive of that for ANYBODY who gives his wife the bash.

However, I believe that he should have been given name supression until the charges were proven - indeed that should be a right in the majority of cases where there was no immeadiate threat to the community.

Its tragic that anyone gets to the point of taking their life - but unfortuantley there are many people in NZ that do just that.

As for feeling sorry for him personally? I dont know. Why? It all depends on why he tried killing himself.

People are funny - and whats important to some is less so to others. Has he done it because hes so overcome with grief that he broke her back? I dont think so.

Is it because hes been caught out and his fairytail live is falling apart - Im guessing probaly. That I have less sympathy for.

[westie]

Two sides to all stories, interesting the media havent been hounding the victim for information.
I hope he defends "the allegations" well.

[Taz]

"I hope ... the people who have put Tony in this position are happy."

Tony put Tony in this position...........

Personal responsibility is lacking in this world.

[forkoil]

He's an alleged girlfriend beater.

He's not been convicted yet, but thanks to a smear campaign by his "colleagues" he has been convicted in the minds of every NZer.

Even if he's completely innocent he's fucked now.

Good on ya Kiwi.

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[Murray]

Don't you love the media at the moment and their use of the word "allegedly". Seems to be used for everything and no-one can dispute it!! I like the article on Toni Browns brother who was allegedly at a party that allegedly went so long and allededly started at such and such time blah blah blah!! And now the new one is "a neighbour said", well why don't they name the neighbour??? 3 neighbours got quoted in the above mentioned article.

Trial by media - death by media

Wish they were forced to report facts only (not alleged facts)

[raftn]

I do not wish to comment on Tony vietch, what i will say is that we are all only one decision away from screwing up our lives, as the quote goes.....People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Winston001]

I think the problem for Veitch is that he is percieved as a yuppie with resources so far beyond the average person that whatever he says, it sounds manufactured. Having a "spokesperson", a "lawyer", a "publicist" say things on his behalf just isn't possible for 99% of the population.

There are two themes in this thread:

1. Sympathy for a man who feels so desperate that he wanted to take his life. I agree.

2. Disdain that he hasn't been honest and fronted up. I also agree.

If you go into the District Court any day you'll see men who have assaulted their partners fronting up, ashamed, and pleading guilty.

Veitch has already admitted "lashing out". He has never denied the back injuries and hospitalisation etc. If he'd done a Norm Hewitt and come clean he'd have been respected.

[Tank]

He has never denied the back injuries and hospitalisation etc. If he'd done a Norm Hewitt and come clean he'd have been respected.

of course the right time to have done this was when the event happened - not once he had been caught out.

Otherwise everything is seen as "Im sorry I got caught" not "Im sorry I did it" which is probably the truth.

[The Stranger:Me]

Isn't suicide illegal??

Did I miss something in the article, was suicide mentioned or intimated - or were you merely musing?

[ManDownUnder]

I reckon everyone should leave him the fuck alone, we dont know the full story and whilst I dont condone what he did, I think the way the media circus has got stuck into him is beyond disgusting, we dont treat anyone else that harshly

Agreed... blingo blingo blingo.

[The Stranger:Me]

He is not guilty until each of the 6 charges have been tried in court.

Isn't one guilty of committing a crime when they actually commit it, not just when found out and tried?

[ManDownUnder]

"I hope ... the people who have put Tony in this position are happy."

Tony put Tony in this position...........

Personal responsibility is lacking in this world.

Tony put Tony into the papers? What'd he do - write the articles? Yes he did badly - so have a lot of people. But it's the press in their blood lust to sell advertising space (fuelled by the public's lust for gossip that is NONE OF OUR FUCKING BUSINESS)...

... I'm sure you see where I'm going with this.

I feel sorry for him. He wants help, he needs help and he doesn't need a pack of wolves cirling witing to devour the NEXT round of details on this sad saga.

[devnull]

Like what exactly?

Alleging she was so badly injured that she had to quit her job, for one.

Unfortunately for TV3, Google caches sites, and just happens to have a goodly number of press releases she made for Vodafone during that time.
Right up to the move to a new job

Crappy tabloid television at its finest.

What ever happened to "news" being factual?
This whole saga stopped being news and became persecution quite a long time ago.

Talking about being "in the public eye" is bullshit.
Politicians are, and have committed no shortage of crimes (e.g. paintergate), but they are "hands-off" it seems.

Really smacks of hypocrisy to me.

[avgas]

and you all thought i was kidding when i said that i hope he didnt top himself.
anyone who knows stress and depression knows that sometimes more doors close than open

[Scouse]

I reckon everyone should leave him the fuck alone, we dont know the full story and whilst I dont condone what he did, I think the way the media circus has got stuck into him is beyond disgusting, we dont treat anyone else that harshly

Actualy I agree with you for once there Quasi. All you twats that are suffering tall poppy syndrome leave the guy alone none of you know the full story and no one will until it is tested in court so shutup