Incompetence by NZ police re: death of officer.

**Ocean1** · 12th September 2008, 19:01

Originally Posted by mazz1972

I'm getting fed up of the crock of shit emotive reporting we are getting fed by the media, and it's steadily getting worse.

You're STILL tuned in??!!

Hint: the adds are WAY more intrinsically accurate, just mute all that other crap in between.

**Pedrostt500** · 12th September 2008, 19:57

Its time that the hard labour was put back into the prison system, turning big rocks into little rocks with the aid of a sledge hammer, and a quota to be filled by days end.

**scumdog** · 12th September 2008, 20:14

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Are you not allowed equipment such as the "Second Chance" clothing?

Friend of mine took a 9mm to his side whilst wearing one of their lightweight undershirt T Shirts. Lots of bruising but no penetration, hence my mate still being around to talk about it.

Richard Davis used to make a show of holding a .44 mag to his stomache and pulling the trigger. His only allowance to comfort was some padding to save the bruises

Seen that stuff, great product.

Sadly like a lot of 'safety' devices you would need to wear it EVERY day at work for it to be of any use.

I guess the dead dude had not anticipated such 'reaction' to his efforts...I know that in similar situation I think the same....

**Toaster** · 12th September 2008, 20:25

Originally Posted by Patrick

... the Dept should pay for it, being the good employer, making the work site safe for their staff, and all that sort of thing....

(*cough! cough! splutter..........)

Better work stories huh? "Hey honey I got beat up and shot several times last night after my partner was murdered."

Those poor brave men and their familes, friends and collegues. So very very tragic.

**_Shrek_** · 12th September 2008, 20:35

Originally Posted by Tank

First Skidmark - this is a really emotive topic - I dont know what the hell they fed you down the S/I, you raised it in about as nice way possible for REASONABLE discussion. (what happened to the Skiddy of old?)

we got a hold of him Tank

taught him some colture & he went back up norf a changed man

& as far as the scum bags who shot the cops, they should never have made it through to the next day unless it was to put down

RIP to the officer, his family, friends and co-workers

**sAsLEX** · 12th September 2008, 20:35

Originally Posted by scumdog

Seen that stuff, great product.

Sadly like a lot of 'safety' devices you would need to wear it EVERY day at work for it to be of any use.

I guess the dead dude had not anticipated such 'reaction' to his efforts...I know that in similar situation I think the same....

**skidMark** · 12th September 2008, 22:29

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Quoted image removed

As funny as i usually find that picture of scumdog i do not think this is an appropriate thread to make laughable banter of him as a reply to his very serious genuine sincere post.

**GurlRacer** · 13th September 2008, 00:39

RIP Mate... thanks for being such a brave guy. A real hero to our young ones.

Can't we take a positive spin on this? While I agree with the other comments brought up here, I just need to add one or two points of my own. Because this has happened, and a big investigation set in motion... things will come out of this. Has anyone stopped to think how many more lives may be saved by this one guy? Maybe they will invest in bullet proof vests from now on. Although I hate to say it, NZ is not what it used to be. Although it sucks that he has passed, he hasn't died an ordinary man, and may help his friends and co-workers for the future. (And I speak from experience...!)

Our cops are great. I really value them. Yes they bug me sometimes, but they do a great job. And besides, everyone makes mistakes. Why is it, that when it is the police or a political leader that we are so judgemental? We as a nation are so critical to things that happen within these departements. I think we forget that, we too make big doozeys too.

But, RIP mate. Thank you.
And an even bigger thank you to all the cops that got up the next day to get back to work, working for us, working to make our country a better place.

**sAsLEX** · 13th September 2008, 00:50

Originally Posted by GurlRacer

Our cops are great. I really value them. Yes they bug me sometimes, but they do a great job.

They do! And they make do with shit, absolute shit to be honest, resources!

But the politicians like their statistics to match their bleat for the week so we see them focussing on the vote gaining crimes rather than pure beat work....

Speed kills..... yip.......... so does absolute stupidity and laziness but you don't see us outlawing them!

**maybe** · 14th September 2008, 00:36

I hope that none of the Officers families are members of this forum because it would piss me off to read some of the replies that have been posted.

**Katman** · 14th September 2008, 01:25

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

I met a couple of other bikers and we greeted each other in the traditional manner.

The mind boggles.

**cruising** · 14th September 2008, 05:35

Originally Posted by GurlRacer

things will come out of this. Has anyone stopped to think how many more lives may be saved by this one guy?

You are completely right in everything you said. Except why does a good honest bloke has to die before such obvious things are noticed?

I know hindsight 20/20 and all, but a few things are glaringly obvious as stated by many. They are outside a p house at 1.30am? Even your NORMAL household has people asleep at 1.30am. Wait a few hours maybe?

Didn't expect guns? At a drug house? Even if there wasn't a giant WE HAVE GUNS sign that hit them on the head, no one heard of erring on the side of caution?

Police officers running FROM crooks? Undercover, sure, but once discovered, why not just claim: WE ARE POLICE and pull out guns/tasers/start talking on radio making them aware that there are other cops around. From the thug's view, it must have just looked like a rival gang mucking about then cheesing it, so they gave chase and fired.

In any case, a good fellow needlessly dead and you can see a trail of sheer incompetence for miles.

I mean, didn't expect guns at a drug house, that really takes the cake. It's bloody frustrating how incompetent the whole bureaucracy is.

**scumdog** · 14th September 2008, 09:01

Originally Posted by cruising

You are completely right in everything you said. Except why does a good honest bloke has to die before such obvious things are noticed?

I know hindsight 20/20 and all, but a few things are glaringly obvious as stated by many. They are outside a p house at 1.30am? Even your NORMAL household has people asleep at 1.30am. Wait a few hours maybe?

Didn't expect guns? At a drug house? Even if there wasn't a giant WE HAVE GUNS sign that hit them on the head, no one heard of erring on the side of caution?

Police officers running FROM crooks? Undercover, sure, but once discovered, why not just claim: WE ARE POLICE and pull out guns/tasers/start talking on radio making them aware that there are other cops around. From the thug's view, it must have just looked like a rival gang mucking about then cheesing it, so they gave chase and fired.

In any case, a good fellow needlessly dead and you can see a trail of sheer incompetence for miles.

I mean, didn't expect guns at a drug house, that really takes the cake. It's bloody frustrating how incompetent the whole bureaucracy is.

A civilians simplistic take on the incident.

Understandable but flawed.

**alanzs** · 14th September 2008, 09:07

Originally Posted by scumdog

A civilians simplistic take on the incident.

Understandable but flawed.

Your patience and understanding are an example of the professionalism of the police here. Not being a police officer, I would have said something like "You fucking idiot, what the fuck would you know about these things. SOMEONE DIED TRYING TO PROTECT YOU, YOU WORTHLESS TURD. If you don't think the police are doing a good enough job, then feel free to summon up the balls to make it better." Something like that...

Keep up the good work and be safe.