has made a bo-bo in his nappies
i read the link and it was just more right wing propaganda trying to excuse the capitalists for abuse.Originally Posted by MisterD
yes, there is some regulation in the finance industry but the failure of the markets AGAIN proves that there needs to be MORE regulation to protect society from wanton greed and abuse.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
dead right!Owen Glenn
What's the going rate for a consul's job these days?
http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_...lenns-sha.html
Owen Glen, Brierly, Michael Faye, Richwhite and all the other wealthy few promoting their own profit margins by corrupting democracy.
get rid of it all and fund all parties through the state. it's a small price to pay for more transparent government and policies written by and for the people of NZ as a whole rather than for and by foreign corporations and the wealthy few.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
the 'communists'???
that's fucking hilarious claptrap, the democrats are more right wing than the NZ National party.
keep it up, nonsense like this makes a fool of the right wing
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
nah, it's just a fact: people who give away money to politicians rarely to never do it without expecting some gain on their 'investment'.
it looks like it's not just the national party who are afraid of a level playing field, the whole right wing is too!
Psyclepath
Translation: socialism doesn't work, so we need more socialism.
The mess we see in the US is what happens when well-intentioned idiots think they know better than the market. Government incentivised lending to bad credit risks at unrealistically low rates and guess what happened.
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
Psyclepath
Yeah, let's level the playing field. Allow people to opt of out funding unions through their subs, itemise and deduct all the time of Union employees spent supporting Liarbour electioneering...
It's a fundamental tenet of right leaning economics that people know best how to spend their own money. Simple. As. That.
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
nope;Translation: socialism doesn't work, so we need more socialism.
The mess we see in the US is what happens when well-intentioned idiots think they know better than the market. Government incentivised lending to bad credit risks at unrealistically low rates and guess what happened.
translation: the markets were not regulated enough and greedy capitalists saw easy profits in marginal mortgages. We need more regulation to reduce the ability to abuse.
The government remember, has been in the pocket of big business for decades in the US. Without their money, no politician stands a chance in hell. The rules were made to allow them to fleece more people.
They start illegal wars for the very same reason.
One thing that is totally guaranteed: if you provide completely free markets, we will almost all end up as serfs
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Nobody forces me to join a union. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, unionism is totally voluntary in NZ.
Isn't that the opt out?
Of course that means they will be back to the old ECA where employers abused us en masse and drove wages down to near 3rd world level.
"It's a fundamental tenet of right leaning economics that people know best how to spend their own money."
Oh sure; that's why the US health system costs about twice as much as ours per capita and why they pay wayyyy more for insurance and even more for litigation than we do.
good grief! what specious crap
Psyclepath
I couldn't have summed up your arguments better if I'd tried.
Some things require some public consolidation - health, defence, education but without private market involvement you just end up with bloated beaurocratic inefficiency - shit you only have to look at the public sector in the last nine years of Cullenomics. Have all those tax $$ actually helped patients?
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
some things need public consolidation????
so you're a socialist after all! a real right winger would deny that anything needs anything but market forces.
you obviously haven't been paying attention: i'm not anti trade or anti wealth, i just don't believe that what's best for the wealthy is best for all.
as for bloated government; look at your own model the USA, now THAT is a bloated bureaucracy!
BTW: Yes, our tax dollars HAVE helped patients and no, we don't have 15% of our population unable to receive good health care because they don't have insurance.
L-Plate Rider
I don't need to keep reading this thread. Mate, politicians are constantly under the spotlight so will no doubt have 'dirt' dug up about them by hungry journalists. What you need to worry about is not John Key's personal money and investments, cast your mind back to the last election where Helen got busted for spending tax-payers money on their election campaign. They changed the law to make it o.k, then gave the spent money back to 'charity'. That's my fucking tax money they spend on themselves, illegally, then change the law to make it alright, then go give the money they spent to a charity to look like the good guys.
If you're a hard working Kiwi, then voting Labour would be insane. Skyryder, if you're a student or on the benefit, no explanation needed.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
and that's what happens when elections are funded by capitalists; the opposition must find other ways to pay for a campaign.
the kicker is that if national wins, your taxpayer dollars will go out of the country even faster and in the long run, as in the US, every social cost today that is privatised will cost way more for everyone.
a vote for national is a vote for foreign control.
we need state funded elections NOW
Forum whore
Absolutely spot on - isn't that what Owen Glenn did? - gave capitalist dollars to Labour. I know that most of National's funding comes from small donations from members and profit from selling raffle tickets etc. Labour get donations from unions - surplus from government work etc. Yep as a tax payer I am already funding Labour - this makes me feel really good.
Right again - this democratic system should be scrapped. Why not replace it with the system running in Cuba and employ lots more efficient public servants?
Now how does this work? What do you think National is going to do to give control to foreign interests? I really need to know so please feel free to enlighten us.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Buahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Yes, this Looney Labourite Sect gubbinment is closer to the Mugabe regime than we realise, but this statement is gold!
"State funded elections!!!"
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Psyclepath
Well as it happens, I do believe that what's good for business, is good for me. A business employs me to sell their stuff to other businesses...rocket science, it ain't.
Bullshit is the US some kind of experiment in pure capitalism - their protectionist trade policy is as far from market driven as you can get. You need to find another bogeyman if you want to run those kind of arguments.as for bloated government; look at your own model the USA, now THAT is a bloated bureaucracy!
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
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