This Forum (Manawatu) is being deleted on next upgrade

[Bren]

oh well, we know where we stand...IMHO...the manawatu riders dont seem to be welcome...even though the posting in the manawatu crap talk thread was one of the liveliest of the lot...i guess any group that is maybe a little bit different is targeted...

...it's differences that make things interesting...

[rottiguy]

yes it sure is a shame some people still act like kids even though they are into their middle age, maybe they have peter pan syndrome.

Flogging a dead horse springs to mind.

I can only hope people will just get over it all and remember it's supposed to be about the bikes and riding, not generating their own little soap opera in cyber space.

When i was introduced to this site I thought it was a brilliant idea for bikers to get together and go for rides and talk bikes, but it seems to be just one big power struggle and bitch fight. Oh well I guess you can't get away from politics no matter where you go.

Please get a grip

[Bren]

10 char......

[Mental Trousers]

So why didnt the mods take out some of the offensive posts and put them in PD like they do in the main forum, Works there.
Thought this was sorted anyway, obvoiusly someone still very unhappy

The rules were relaxed a bit for the Social Group Forums. The mods let a hell of a lot slide but that just led to an avalanche.

The immediate problem was sorted, but the problem for the people who run this place is that we trusted people to behave with the relaxed rules but things went too far. Betrayal of trust isn't cured in 5 minutes. The repercussions spread wide and go deep.

[sinfull]

Then why post it in two seperate threads?

Magic number 241 perhaps

The first twilight ride is going to be SO colourful!

Nah it won't, unfortunately i'm not in on this one

Hi, this is canopener. I try not to talk loud. Where do we post now?

Same place we did before the forum was set up !

the bloody whiners whine loud enough to get thier own way. Lets hope they are all happy

Think that was the problem meanie !
There was some hell bitch fights going on in here, it's not like it's a private forum man ! I was actually embarassed (wrong choice of words perhaps, i don't blush often) that there was such power play going on !
Your right in one aspect that kb in my mind is the best thing since sliced bread (far too much time on my hands) and though as yod has pointed out half the threads on kb deserve to be binned, it is a policy however that nothing is deleted so everything is archived !
The forum is great in whatever form, to talk bikes, riding, crap and meeting new ppl I personally have learnt a fair amount in the short time i've been here, met some cool ppl, been on a couple of good fun rides !
The deleting of the manawatu forum is not going to change any of that for anyone !
I think someone has just made it known who owns what !

Thank the stars we still have real life to fall back on aye !

[Switch]

I still dont really know what went wrong, admitedly i havn't been following everything and i dont post that often. But to me it seemed like a busy thread (or threads) that was working quite fine? I dont really want to know what went wrong, but i thought the social groups could work. Not my kind of thing, but it was a good way to sort out forum threads???

I know a place that doesnt delete your threads

[Horse]

So the entire thing is being canned even though the mess is cleaned up and sorted out. Unfortunately it's too late, the damage was done.

What is this, World Meaningless Platitude Day? It's cleaned up, but oh noes, it's all too late!!!!!1 We've walked past some mythical Point Of No Return? We've learned things that Man Wasn't Meant To Know? We've tasted the Flesh of Forbidden Fruit.

What a bunch of crap. Sorry if I'm not buying it. As I said, it's Spank's site, he gets to make the rules and do what he wants, but if you're going to come up with some retroactive justification to make everyone involved feel like they're being Calm and Reasonable, get back to me when it's something at least vaguely plausible.

[Mental Trousers]

I do need to just clarify something here. The Social Group Forums were being removed anyway. Once we knew that threaded Social Groups were being implemented that was the end for the Social Group Forums because they're buggy, they're incredibly resource heavy, they were never fully implemented. They're a beta really, but now the authors have found that they're not quite what they expected (as have we) so they're going with threaded Social Groups instead.

This forum isn't being shut down because it's a failed experiment. That failure only has bearing on when it's shutdown. Not if.

[Mental Trousers]

... blah ...

I really don't care if you believe me or not. But if you don't want an explanation then stop reading cos I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear.

[yod]

yes it sure is a shame some people still act like kids even though they are into their middle age, maybe they have peter pan syndrome.

Flogging a dead horse springs to mind.

I can only hope people will just get over it all and remember it's supposed to be about the bikes and riding, not generating their own little soap opera in cyber space.

When i was introduced to this site I thought it was a brilliant idea for bikers to get together and go for rides and talk bikes, but it seems to be just one big power struggle and bitch fight. Oh well I guess you can't get away from politics no matter where you go.

Please get a grip

are you serious?

bikes and riding??

check out rant or rave, there's over half a million posts in there, thats more than any other section of the entire site

people are people, they'll talk about whatever they hell they want

not sure who you're actually aiming at with this post but if you don't like 'flogging a dead horse' as you call it, the easy answer is; don't join in

[Horse]

I really don't care if you believe me or not. But if you don't want an explanation then stop reading cos I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear.

To put it another way: you said "The repercussions spread wide and go deep" - I'm simply not seeing that, but if you feel like providing some supporting commentary I'm all ears.

All I see is (1) some people that realised "omg the mods aren't looking" and got a little carried away, and posted some pointless shit. OMG It's the End of the WORLD.... oh wait, you can just delete the shit, get a senior mod to lay out a bit of smackdown (you could call it "doing poo-poos in your own playpen" or something like that) and things might just settle down.... (why does that sound familiar?)

and (2) 1 or 2 mods taking things said on the internet personally (which in my opinion and yes, 19 years of experience doing things on the Internet, pretty much rules them out of being a mod) and getting a little carried away.

As I said, if there's more, I'm all ears.

[Can Opener]

I'm with Yod. Cheers to Manawatu.

[Bonez]

The first twilight ride is going to be SO colourful!

Too right.

[sinfull]

I'm with Yod. Cheers to Manawatu.

Haha thats gonna help !

[cowboyz]

ok . before this gets binned lets clear up a few things.


1. MRF was created.
2. Ultimate crap threads created. this was made in the MRF to continue what was in rant and rave.
3. I asked MT to move ride threads to MRF
4. Ride threads and crap threads were moved to MRF
5. Chanceyy had issue with ride threads in MRF and raised issue about no one being able to see them
6. I corrected her saying everyone could see them
7. Chanceyy came up with several reasons why it was a bad idea.
8. I rebutted comments from chanceyy why I thought it was a good idea.
9. Chanceyy called a group who wanted rides threads in MRF elitist. (twice)
10. In a drunken night of partying a group came up with the idea of calling ourselves the Elitist Masters of the Universe. (EMU)
11. posts were made about it
12. All sorts of comments and abuse ranging from the labelled EMUs being childish to masterbaters were directed online.
13. Was explained EMU was a measure of magnetic force (apt named BTW)
14. more pissy comments.
15. poll.
16. threads moved back, with no rides threads in MRF and vote showing MRF was for crap threads, several crap threads showed up and were pd'd.
17. I was phoned and told an outside job would be influenced if I contiuned to pick on chanceyy even though I havent been about to find any abuse directed at chanceyy.
18. everyone calmed down.
19. told MRF posters were responsible for shutting down of social groups.
20. Still no actual evidence of alleged abuse.
21. SG being shut down due to bugs/ irresponsible behaviour????? (still confused over this one.

If any mod wants to PM me any posts where I have abused anyone in the MRF then fill my mailbox. I cant find them.

BTW. somewhere in there. there was a snr mod flinging abuse left right and centre and that was ignored. Even when another SNR mod was notified of it I got the response - I dont care.

Feel free to correct me, cause I really dont get it.

(might have to start using ACTUAL EXAMPLES rather than broad general statements. I am not that smart)