The story of Tenzing the Super Tenere

[NordieBoy]

....cause I haven't put seat on pending the tank which needs the air box which needs the air filters which are still being made.

But you've got some cool stickers to keep you occupied

[scracha]

That might explain why Tenzing has 24L fuel and the TDM only 16L or some such.

?? Mine took 20 litres.

[Crisis management]

Little experiment for you then - take them off

Cheers R

Just for you Ryan........I didn't fit my magic stickers to the Kaboom and now I've got nice scuffy marks on both sides!

This is clear proof of the efficacy of my magic stickers, they're about to fitted to the Kaboom before I do any more damage.




(them and those TKC80 rubbery things...)

[cooneyr]

Just for you Ryan........I didn't fit my magic stickers to the Kaboom and now I've got nice scuffy marks on both sides!

This is clear proof of the efficacy of my magic stickers, they're about to fitted to the Kaboom before I do any more damage.




(them and those TKC80 rubbery things...)

LOL - good one. I've put the Wilbers fork stickers on and I'm sure the suspension works better now than before. The shock change, fork oil and springs had nothing to do with it

Hopefully the the TKC80's will help in that slick clay CM. Looks pretty sticky i.e. fill up almost any tyre. Do the 4wd thing - spin up the tyres to clear them if you can. Easy for the rear but obviously speed is the only way for the front. Sometimes a bit more speed may actually be better for handling in mud than slow paddling - tis a little risky though.

Will try and do an update of this thread with the foam air cleaners, suspension and deserts (finally found some 17inchers) soon.

Cheers R

[JATZ]

I'd be real keen to know what you think of the Wilbers shocks.
I'm thinking of up dating the DR suspension and wilbers is about the only aftermarket shock I can get, sposed to be good though (have to be for nigh on a grand + postage.

[cooneyr]

I'd be real keen to know what you think of the Wilbers shocks.
I'm thinking of up dating the DR suspension and wilbers is about the only aftermarket shock I can get, sposed to be good though (have to be for nigh on a grand + postage.

Only done one ride so far and am happy with it but it is still settling. Was absolutely no static sag for a start off but there is just a little now. Handled corrugation really nicely so far.

I got mine through ASR suspension (Greg Fairthorne) in Melbourne. Took 3 weeks from ordering to get to Melbourne from Germany, then two weeks to get from Melbourne to home via NZ customs (3 days to get from Melbourne to Auck). Cost of the shock with fork springs and postage was around $1200, 20% up front and rest when the shock arrives in Melbourne. Greg puts orders through to Wilbers Germany on the 10th of each month so no point in ordering till just before re your deposit. Give Greg a ring - really helpful guy.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Must have been the anticipation but the Desert was a piece of cake to put on. In anticipation of them being difficult I finally succumbed to the idea of using soapy water/watery soap and they beaded with about 35psi. Hoping the soap doesn't cause issue later but I wont be running tyres at much less than 30psi so should be fine.

Took the rim strip/spoke strip (what is that strip called?) of to clean the rim. When putting the tools away (has the wheel on the bike) noticed I'd forgotten to put the strip on! Got to practice taking the Desert off and putting it back on gain. Going to be interesting breaking the bead out in the wops. I finally sorted out a system using a leaver and bits of 4x2 to break the bead at home.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

It's the powerband.

Or rim tape.

[jezzaNZ]

Sorry to butt in here with my 2 cents worth but I know a little about this particular topic......the Wilbers are a big improvement on the std fork springs but are still lacking a little in the rough stuff due to the "1991" technology. You can replace the forks completly with White Power 4057 series fork from an early 90's KTM for superior performance. Only drawback is you need to convert to a single disk front break, not a major cosidering the s10 has better front breaking than the 950adv I currently have.

P.S
Al hope you havent broken any more parts off the old girl?

Bring on the dusty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cooneyr]

Sorry to butt in here with my 2 cents worth but I know a little about this particular topic......the Wilbers are a big improvement on the std fork springs but are still lacking a little in the rough stuff due to the "1991" technology. You can replace the forks completly with White Power 4057 series fork from an early 90's KTM for superior performance. Only drawback is you need to convert to a single disk front break, not a major cosidering the s10 has better front breaking than the 950adv I currently have.

P.S
Al hope you havent broken any more parts off the old girl?

Bring on the dusty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hear you on the wilbers vs the WP forks. WR 250/450 forks up to the late 90's (I think) with the XTZ stem in the WR tripple clamps work as well. The other option is chuck Trumpy Tigger (dont do a XTZ kit but they tigger ones supposedly work very nicely) Racetec emulators in them. Just going to ride the bike some more and see how things are going in a few months. XTZ brakes are better than the KTM - I don't think I heard you right is this what your really meant?

El has finally sorted out the plastics on his XTZ and has some paint so it is looking nice and pretty again (still needs stickers) and I dont give too much of a sh1t about mine (as long as it is all there and it works).

First ride on the desert today - managed a nice power slide out of the second corner. Bit like riding on ice but it has improve significantly in the 20kms so far. Definitely a bigger profile and rolling circumference than the 130/80 17 D606. With the Wilbers settled a little bit and the extra height of the Desert I cant quite flat foot it any more.

Keen as for the DB1k as well. Gonna give it a serious nudge this year - 18ish hours.

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Definitely a bigger profile and rolling circumference than the 130/80 17 D606.

How worn was the D606? Losing 10mm of tread height is about a 3% drop in gearing. Going from a worn smaller tyre to a fresh bigger tyre is 5-6% increase.

That's one of the reasons I didn't like the 5.10-18. Versus the 140/80-18, when new it tolerably short-geared the bike, but as it wore it was just too much (or more accurately, too little).

[cooneyr]

How worn was the D606? Losing 10mm of tread height is about a 3% drop in gearing. Going from a worn smaller tyre to a fresh bigger tyre is 5-6% increase.

That's one of the reasons I didn't like the 5.10-18. Versus the 140/80-18, when new it tolerably short-geared the bike, but as it wore it was just too much (or more accurately, too little).

Havent had the chance to check speed vs rpm (using the bikes instruments) but at a guess there is around 20mm difference in diameter. 10mm of D606 tread and 10mm of extra casing size in the Desert. The bike is a little revy with the worn D606 on at 100kph (just getting into the 5000rpm vibration zone)

Just did the calcs. If the tyres are actually the size they say they are (which is never the case) then the Desert at new is 6.1% bigger in circumference than the worn D606 (3% compared to a new D606). This should drop the RPM back to about 4700 which is about what El XTZ is pulling at 100kph.

Cheers R

[warewolf]

You could measure the 'static' circumference; get El Scoot to push you on the bike, it will take into account sidewall flex at that pressure.

That's the recommended method for setting bicycle computers, where you adjust the circumference by 1mm.

[cooneyr]

You could measure the 'static' circumference; get El Scoot to push you on the bike, it will take into account sidewall flex at that pressure.

That's the recommended method for setting bicycle computers, where you adjust the circumference by 1mm.

Or I could just use the rev counter and the GPS If the revs drop back enough to be able to do an indicated (bike speedo) 110 which is about 100 on the GPS at comfortable (non vib) revs then I'm more than happy. I strongly suspect this will be the case.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Time for some more bike porn. First couple of pics showing the effects of the suspension change. If you compare these pics with those in the first post of this thread you can see that the swing arm is on a much steeper angle and the fork covers are much more stretched out. I'm guessing (base on side stand clearance when vertical) that there is about 50mm lift as a result of the suspension.

Last couple of pics are of the tyres. The Pirelli 486 front is doing very nicely so far. Really happy with its performance both on and off road. The Desert is still very new so still taking it somewhat easy till it is scrubbed in.

You wouldn't want to be much smaller than me to ride this bike or you'd want to be skilled enough to not be concerned about not being able to put both your feet down at once.

Cheers R