He will not die painfully, I hope!

[McJim]

And what's that if it's not ramming it down someone's throat?

But it was done in a positive and friendly way. That way the lesson was learned. He was an eager pupil.

I really wish you would drop the 'holier than thou' negative attitude to tuition as it puts people off riding safely. I believe you have done a lot more harm than good with many of your posts. I am constantly disappointed by your attitude, actions and breaches of nettiquette.

[Katman]

But it was done in a positive and friendly way. That way the lesson was learned. He was an eager pupil.

I really wish you would drop the 'holier than thou' negative attitude to tuition as it puts people off riding safely. I believe you have done a lot more harm than good with many of your posts. I am constantly disappointed by your attitude, actions and breaches of nettiquette.

You just can't help but hit that 'show post' button, can you?



(And btw, I couldn't give a fuck what you really wish for).

[McJim]

You just can't help but hit that 'show post' button, can you?



(And btw, I couldn't give a fuck what you really wish for).

You DO dream about me don't you

[Bren]

I am constantly disappointed by your attitude, actions and breaches of nettiquette.

And btw, I couldn't give a fuck what you really wish for.

c'mon guys, lets not turn this into a bitchslap...KB has enough of those posts...

What the Git did.,or is doing is constructive and very applaudable, I just hope the kid learns something from it, even if he takes away one thing it could be the differnce between being roadmince and riding away safely

[Daffyd]

c'mon guys, lets not turn this into a bitchslap...KB has enough of those posts...

What the Git did.,or is doing is constructive and very applaudable, I just hope the kid learns something from it, even if he takes away one thing it could be the differnce between being roadmince and riding away safely

My thoughts eggs ackerry! Well done Old Git!

[James Deuce]

Old Git for head busybody.

You also forgot to burn him.

[FJRider]

What the Git did.,or is doing is constructive and very applaudable, I just hope the kid learns something from it, even if he takes away one thing it could be the differnce between being roadmince and riding away safely

And if one learner rider lives long enough to gain their full licence... so much the better.
Plus another KB'r...maybe...time will tell.

[Fatt Max]

Good on ya old git,
As a newbie biker myself, it's great to see you guys helping out us L platers, personifies the cool people that get on this site.
I appreciate the time you have given this guy and I'm sure he will be a better rider for your wisdom. Let us know how it goes.
Oh, and why is my missus in your avatar....
Take care, ride safe and eat pies

[madbikeboy]

Viewpoint is interesting. I'm sure Helen thinks she's doing a fine job. I'm sure Hitler thought he was doing the right thing. Now, I'm about to stick up for Katman - he thinks he's doing the right thing based on a lot of experience on the roads in one of the toughest places in the world - being a courier in London.

Now, if you take his message, and decode the lack of tact and the "end is nigh" ramble that accompanies the message - he serves a valuable purpose.

Further, if you take the polar extremes of the personalities here, for every KatMan, there is a Carver (Ying and Moron), and even the most suicidal of riders, given positive or even negative feedback, can grow up - apparently Skiddy is turning out okay, and people no longer mumble about life expectancies when looking in his direction.

So, back to the point, KM serves a purpose here, he doesn't have the calm language skills of a Frosty, but, and here's the thing, despite the predictability of the end is nigh comments, he gives enough of shit to keep pointing to the inevitable truth from his frame of reference.

Oh, one last thing, are KatMan and McJim married - you sound like you are (abusing each other and never having sex, sounds like marriage to me)...

[Big Dave]

The stupidest shit I saw all week on a motorcycle was by an older guy on a K series BMW on Remuera road. Stupider than a stupid thing on national stupid day.

Followed closely by the several younger ones that think a hi vis vest and white sandshoes covers it for safety gear.

[old git]

Me again.........the one who actually bothered to do something to help out a newbie.........................I spent 90 mins today teaching bike control and road sense and lots of awareness training.........yep, he will live longer now....and so will his mate who appeared with him. Both Married with kids and using the GN250's to save money on transport costs. OK so they are only commuters..........but i think i helped.

[PrincessBandit]

Yep,
.................

So now i'm off to meet him at 12 today on the old XS1100 to perhaps help another young biker become an old one..............

Good on you; I hope he appreciates that an older more experienced rider has offered to help. It's easy in the heat of the moment to let rip with vitriol, not seeing past the here-and-now, then roar off leaving the other person feeling abused, shaken, angry, inadequate (any or all of the above, whether they are justifiable or not). Taking the time to get past that and arranging to meet for some helpful instruction shows appreciation of the bigger picture. Let's just hope he turns up and doesn't decide to "noshow" because he thinks you're going to beat the crap out of him!

[old git]

Me yet again,
Complete with that warm feeling (not the one where you piss yourself) but the one that you get from actually being a decent human being . I just received a phone call from the second guy that turned up with his mate......offering money in exchange for more lessons!!!.
Perhaps after 25+years of not helping....since i "retired" from helping on an RAC/ACU bike instructors course in the UK. I may just find doing a bit more on a sunday morning refreshing (and it gets me out of mowing the soddin lawn}...............we'll see.

[LittleAngel]

I say - Good on ya !! We need more people like you in the world.

I'm sure their families will be very grateful you offered to help!!

It's easy to shake ya head at cagers/motorcyclist and wave ya fists , but that will never change their behaviour - allowing someone to learn how to improve their skills will keep them alive!

There is good in this world ......

[Jacko2]

Me yet again,
Complete with that warm feeling (not the one where you piss yourself) but the one that you get from actually being a decent human being . I just received a phone call from the second guy that turned up with his mate......offering money in exchange for more lessons!!!.
Perhaps after 25+years of not helping....since i "retired" from helping on an RAC/ACU bike instructors course in the UK. I may just find doing a bit more on a sunday morning refreshing (and it gets me out of mowing the soddin lawn}...............we'll see.

Well Done Ya Git