Crashed rider in Christchurch - Anyone know anything? (10 November)

[uNople]

Hey all,

coming home for lunch down Brougham Street in chch, there was a crashed biker on the corner of Colombo and Brougham. It looked like someone impacted him, because he was lying there not doing much - lying on ground, people helping, putting stuff on his head. The helmet was on, so there must have been problems. Looks like it happened somewhere between 1 and 1:20.

His bike was a yellow... sports bike. Black helmet, looked to have leathers on.

Anyone heard anything?

[Paulus]

Weird, saw the same thing on Friday (7 Nov) on the way home (5:15pm ish). Yellow Hyosung GT250 lying on its side - rider not moving and lots of people milling round. This was south bound on Whiteleigh Ave just south of Tower Junction (where the 4 lanes becomes 2 at the railway crossing). Hopefully they are also okay.

[sunhuntin]

leaving the helmet on is one the top things in rider first aid. really only meant to be removed if it is restricting airflow or something, and then undoing the chin strap generally does the trick.

[CookMySock]

so sooo many bikers going down, and many of them not getting up. please be careful out there!

Steve

[portokiwi]

Just did the St johns one last week. They forgot to teach about helmets.

[sunhuntin]

the first aid courses ive done have never mentioned bikes either. i read it on here a while back. i *think* frosty may have posted it up?

[Monamie]

Lots of conflict on the Helmet removal or not.
I was taught the same as Sunhuntin-only remove it if it is restricting breathing so you can do CPR if it is necessary. Removal requires the help of several people...it's not easy.

Lets be careful out there....rubber side down guys.

[Ducky848]

I had a pretty good bang up at Levels about 8 years ago. It was a proper job highside and I couldnt get up..shit I couldnt move I was that fucked up.

The St John's guys got to me pretty quick bless 'em but the first thing they did was whip me helmet off. THEN they asked if anything hurt.....

[sunhuntin]

the reasons given for leaving it were in case of neck/back injuries. removing the helmet means moving the head and possibly doing more harm than good. plus, it would help keep them warm, which is also good.

[portokiwi]

lol. I use to teach first aid and use to push the keeping on of the helmet. but thats going back a few years.
Didnt even think of it I was having to do a full 2 day course. combat first aid is not reconised here. lol

[XP@]

Lots of conflict on the Helmet removal or not.
I was taught the same as Sunhuntin-only remove it if it is restricting breathing so you can do CPR if it is necessary. Removal requires the help of several people...it's not easy.

Lets be careful out there....rubber side down guys.

on the last 1st aid course I was on i played an injured rider... they tried to remove my helmet without undoing the strap or lifting the front (BMW system lid). I died

[sunhuntin]

how the heck are you meant to remove a helmet without undoing the strap?? unless its extremely ill fitting, in which case it wouldnt stay during an accident.

[icekiwi]

Just a thought..
How bout a decal on the helmet...
Like in case of emergency don't remove..

[quickbuck]

how the heck are you meant to remove a helmet without undoing the strap?? unless its extremely ill fitting, in which case it wouldnt stay during an accident.

Remember most first aiders don't actually ride bikes.... Would be an easy thing to forget in the heat of the moment.

I was always told to leave the patient to remove it him/ herself. If they can't due to pain then best leave it on.....
Just got to make sure they are thinking clearly before you let then remove it too...

[Pedrostt500]

Ive always understood if the rider cant remove the Helmet themselves then leave it on, I dont know if ACC still replace Helmets that have been in an accident, but they used to.