70 km/hr speed limit?

[ferriswheel]

I find 130 a good speed on the motorway to keep awake
and every time ive been done the auckland motorway everyone else has had the same idea lol

[imne1]

I rekon what's needed is alternating speed zones, every little while have a nice piece of decent motorway with a higher limit like 140 so that people can have a blat and wake up, then go back to the more passive speeds.

[MSTRS:Me]

I rekon what's needed is alternating speed zones, every little while have a nice piece of decent motorway with a higher limit like 140 so that people can have a blat and wake up, then go back to the more passive speeds.

NOOOOO!!!!
How many get caught out (by the piglets) on the Hamilton 'bypass'?

[Swoop]

Unlike the Swedes, the French destroy speed cameras by shooting them!

Unfortunately that has not begun here. Possibly our firearm owners are far too well behaved?

Maybe we should revert to having a dude walking in front of the vehicle carrying a red flag............and a speed limit of 4mph....

I thought that was still the case if you own a ford...

[slimjim]

man i can remember when i was given km stickers ....to put over the miles per hour dash on my austin 8...but back then 70km was quick..til i realised that she would do 72miles per hour anyway..

[R6_kid:Me]

Remove the nanna state control on our roads. Get rid of speed cameras, or set them to a higher tolerance. Penalise much harder for reckless/dangerous/careless, and jail for 20yrs+ if you kill someone on the road.

I think personal responsibility needs to be encouraged a lot more than 'speed kills'. How about instead of 'slow down', a 'be more cautious' campaign.

Better road design would help to. Like maybe designing roads to the known habits of drivers, instead of slowing everything down which will just lead to more dangerous passing maneuvers - Was good to see a number of new 'slow vehicle lanes' on the way out to Piha last weekend.

[Slyer]

Remove the nanna state control on our roads. Get rid of speed cameras, or set them to a higher tolerance. Penalise much harder for reckless/dangerous/careless, and jail for 20yrs+ if you kill someone on the road.

I think personal responsibility needs to be encouraged a lot more than 'speed kills'. How about instead of 'slow down', a 'be more cautious' campaign.

Better road design would help to. Like maybe designing roads to the known habits of drivers, instead of slowing everything down which will just lead to more dangerous passing maneuvers - Was good to see a number of new 'slow vehicle lanes' on the way out to Piha last weekend.

That's what I would do, remove speed limits from open roads, leave it up to the driver/rider to decide what speed is safe.
Punishments should be dealt for endangering other people.

[Badjelly]

That is exactly what has happened everywhere that the speed limit has been dropped. And in those places that have raised the speed limits the accident rate has dropped.

I'm interested in looking into this. Could you provide a link or two to help me get started, please?

No response.

So all the people who make this statement on KB (and I've seen it quite a few times) are talking through their arses? Or is there some info out there that I could look at?

[Max Preload]

No response.

So all the people who make this statement on KB (and I've seen it quite a few times) are talking through their arses? Or is there some info out there that I could look at?

Ever heard of google?

[mowgli]

And in those places that have raised the speed limits the accident rate has dropped.

Same in the middle east when they reduced speed enforcement. If you get caught speeding there are no demerits and the fine simply gets added to the cost of your next rego - easy.

[Badjelly]

That is exactly what has happened everywhere that the speed limit has been dropped. And in those places that have raised the speed limits the accident rate has dropped.

Same in the middle east when they reduced speed enforcement.

However, in Victoria when they increased speed enforcement, the accident rate dropped:

http://monash.edu.au/muarc/reports/muarc267.html

[sunhuntin]

Remove the nanna state control on our roads. Get rid of speed cameras, or set them to a higher tolerance. Penalise much harder for reckless/dangerous/careless, and jail for 20yrs+ if you kill someone on the road.

I think personal responsibility needs to be encouraged a lot more than 'speed kills'. How about instead of 'slow down', a 'be more cautious' campaign.

Better road design would help to. Like maybe designing roads to the known habits of drivers, instead of slowing everything down which will just lead to more dangerous passing maneuvers - Was good to see a number of new 'slow vehicle lanes' on the way out to Piha last weekend.

add 5 - 10 years if you injure someone on the road. time would change depending on seriousness of injuries [broken bone 5 years, traction for x amount of time, 10 years.

your right that personal reposibility needs to be looked at. so does accepting the blame when it is your fault and none of this "i didnt see you cos you were speeding" bullshit.

[MSTRS:Me]

However, in Victoria when they increased speed enforcement, the accident rate dropped:

You did notice who was doing the saying? Monash are not renowned for sensible ideas or the whole truth in statistic reporting.

[Coyote]

Fucking make the speed limit 0kph. Fucking problem solved bitches.

[Badjelly]

You did notice who was doing the saying? Monash are not renowned for sensible ideas or the whole truth in statistic reporting.

Maybe not, but I referred to a specific report and you are welcome to make specific criticisms of its methods and interpretations. All the other "facts' that have been quoted on this thread are unreferenced and may just be made up as far as I know.