Motorcyclist injured in police pursuit crash

**Grahameeboy** · 15th November 2008, 07:27

Originally Posted by

Its called a road block

Too bad - shouldn't run. He decided to take the risk - he chooses to live with the potential consequence.

It never fails to amaze me why people shit on cops for doing their job - I'd lay money on the fact that if some fuk'd up P head was in your house trying to kill you they would be the first people your gonna ring. Typical case of hate em until I need em ahy!

I guess but difference is the Cops are doing their job and if you killed or injured a p-head in your home you would be charged...

Not sure setting up a road block to stop a bike knowing the consequences is right...don't condem the guy doing a runner but surely there is a point when you just have to let go...

**Shaun** · 15th November 2008, 07:50

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I guess but difference is the Cops are doing their job and if you killed or injured a p-head in your home you would be charged...

Not sure setting up a road block to stop a bike knowing the consequences is right...don't condem the guy doing a runner but surely there is a point when you just have to let go...

exactually, the rider was only breaking a fuckin basic law, ie, do not speed, WOW

So they neally kill him instead

How about they all just go and catch the true crimalls dealing with P

Cops doing this shit are just be wana be amarican heroes

Yea we need cops because of scum on earth, but doing shit like to prove a point is really very very Dangerous

**scumdog** · 15th November 2008, 07:56

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yea we need cops because of scum on earth, but doing shit like to prove a point is really very very Dangerous

Sorta like guys doing a runner are NOT very very Dangerous??

**Grahameeboy** · 15th November 2008, 08:02

Originally Posted by scumdog

Sorta like guys doing a runner are NOT very very Dangerous??

Agreed as well but surely the Police should consider the bigger picture when a fine is the smallest piece of the puzzle...but also agree that the Law needs to be upheld too...I can only think of this...speeding = chase = runner = accident against...speeding = no chase = no runner = no accident

**EJT** · 15th November 2008, 08:02

Originally Posted by Shaun

exactually, the rider was only breaking a fuckin basic law, ie, do not speed, WOW

So they neally kill him instead

How about they all just go and catch the true crimalls dealing with P

Think he nearly killed himself. What would you think if he came flying over the hill and some kid was crossing the road.

And as for catching true crims - it will be interesting to know how many people have been killed by P-Addicts as opposed to speeding / dangerous drivers.

**Big Dave** · 15th November 2008, 08:06

Originally Posted by Shaun

So they neally kill him instead

No knowing for sure - but no they didn't - they nearly killed him for running.
And that comes with the territory.

**scumdog** · 15th November 2008, 08:07

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Agreed as well but surely the Police should consider the bigger picture when a fine is the smallest piece of the puzzle...but also agree that the Law needs to be upheld too...I can only think of this...speeding = chase = runner = accident against...speeding = no chase = no runner = no accident

So speeding = no chase =speeders do the speed they like = no accidents??

Oh yes, I can really see THAT working...pfft!

And the speeders offence is ALWAYS only that they were speeding??

**Grahameeboy** · 15th November 2008, 08:11

Originally Posted by scumdog

So speeding = no chase =speeders do the speed they like = no accidents??

Oh yes, I can really see THAT working...pfft!

And the speeders offence is ALWAYS only that they were speeding??

I speed and have not killed anyone and only 1 non-fault accident v a hit and run red light jumper...difference is when doing a runner you are only thinking about one thing...evading the cops and not safety which I hopefully do when I am speeding i.e. exceeding the prescribed speed limit.

How about this - Speed = Police Chase = Runner = Committing more dangerous offences = greater risk of accident / danger to others v Speed = No Police Chase = Offender slows down = no more risk

Wasn't this Einsteins Theory....What Goes Up must come down!!

**scumdog** · 15th November 2008, 08:20

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I speed and have not killed anyone and only 1 non-fault accident v a hit and run red light jumper...difference is when doing a runner you are only thinking about one thing...evading the cops and not safety which I hopefully do when I am speeding i.e. exceeding the prescribed speed limit.

How about this - Speed = Police Chase = Runner = Committing more dangerous offences = greater risk of accident / danger to others v Speed = No Police Chase = Offender slows down = no more risk

Wasn't this Einsteins Theory....What Goes Up must come down!!

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

**Big Dave** · 15th November 2008, 08:25

Originally Posted by scumdog

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

Some fucknuckle blasts me off the road in his twin turbo Nissyota and I'm supposed to say - nah - let him go??

I want the can't chased, caught, and put in the docks.

**Grahameeboy** · 15th November 2008, 08:25

Originally Posted by scumdog

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

No...I am trying to say that "Police Chases" i.e when someone does not stop when they should have, is an inherent danger...not saying that the Police should ignore the offence...just consider the consequences of a chase...chances are the speeder will slow down

**scumdog** · 15th November 2008, 08:28

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

..chances are the speeder will slow down

Chances are they WON'T - until they have got home (or somewhere they think is 'safe), most don't slow down for yonks, thinking (well I'm being presumtious here that they actually think) 'what if they block this road', 'what if they've called up a car ahead', 'I heard if you do more than 150kph they have to call the chase off' etc etc.

**davereid** · 15th November 2008, 08:38

Catch 22 for the police really...

There is no way they can claim that any pursuit is safe - a set of flashing lights does not melt the laws of physics.

But if they don't chase, who would stop knowing there will be no pursuit ? Would we end up with even more chaos ?

I personally have no concern if a fleeing motorist hurts himself.

Sadly, all too often for both cat-and-mouse, the brain develops a chase-and-catch mentality that almost assures it will end in a crash.

In the case of a motorcyclist, their are only 3 outcomes - he stops, he gets away or he crashes, with injury, hopefully only his.

All too often with a car chase that crash involves completely innocent people.

The answer isn't clear, but it may have more to do with the way we view vehicles, than the facts surrounding "collateral damage".

To put it another way, if the same number of innocent people each year were injured by police firearms, as are injured by pursuits, it may be looked at differently !

**Grahameeboy** · 15th November 2008, 08:51

Originally Posted by scumdog

Chances are they WON'T - until they have got home (or somewhere they think is 'safe), most don't slow down for yonks, thinking (well I'm being presumtious here that they actually think) 'what if they block this road', 'what if they've called up a car ahead', 'I heard if you do more than 150kph they have to call the chase off' etc etc.

You may be right...I have always stopped but if I was able to duck down a driveway before they turned around I cannot honestly say I would not do that...