Suzuki shop rumours.

**jrandom** · 19th November 2008, 19:41

Originally Posted by Elysium

So I'm not so sure if some of these shops going bust is due to the economy, perhaps some aint being managed right.

The 'state of the economy', such as it is, is really just the withdrawal of overly-available credit showing up operations that relied on it rather than the genuine creation of value.

**Elysium** · 19th November 2008, 20:09

Originally Posted by jrandom

The 'state of the economy', such as it is, is really just the withdrawal of overly-available credit showing up operations that relied on it rather than the genuine creation of value.

I wont argue with that.

**Bulldog** · 19th November 2008, 21:05

How can a liquidation be unexpected? That simpy says whoever is running the business isn't running it at all, least of all the books.

**1 Free Man** · 19th November 2008, 21:36

Originally Posted by Elysium

Phil Turnbull's was the Suzuki dealer here in Palmy until their unexpected liquidation. That dealership went to Freedom, who were Freedom Honda until they lost that delership to City Honda.

Phil Turnball's case could be just not being managed well. I personaly felt it was not being run well after Phil sold the business and made worse when Steven from service leaved for City Honda.

So I'm not sure if some of these shops going bust is due to the economy, perhaps some aint being managed right.

Went into Freedom suzuki in Palmy 4 weeks ago and asked for a price on a new S83. I spoke at lenght with the young guy on the showroom floor.
He took all of my details and was going to e-mail or ring me with a price.
I was a cash buyer.
Still havent heard from them. Needless to say I won't go back and have done a deal elsewere.
If that's their idea of giving good service they will be going down the shitter soome rather later as well.
Tough times call for proactive measures and not getting back to potential sale
is a recipe for disaster. Maybe that's why they lost the Honda dealership.

**puddy** · 19th November 2008, 21:55

Originally Posted by Finn

Must I always shine light on all of KB's mistery?

Sorry.......... is that similar to a "mystery"?
Also, I think you missed a couple of spots when you brushed.

But I do agree about the government over the last nine years!

**Okey Dokey** · 20th November 2008, 07:08

Originally Posted by Bulldog

How can a liquidation be unexpected? That simpy says whoever is running the business isn't running it at all, least of all the books.

PLANNING: Don't plan. That way failure comes as a complete surprise and is not proceeded by weeks of anxiety.

**Blossom** · 20th November 2008, 07:22

Originally Posted by 1 Free Man

... have done a deal elsewere.

Sorry off topic here.. but.. does that mean you have upgraded the vl?

I agree some bike shops need to send all their staff on customer service and sales courses. The level of service I have found all over Auckland has been quite bad. Not in every dealership but enough to convince me that when I found one with good service I have stuck with them.

**slimjim** · 20th November 2008, 07:36

yes its not just auckland that has very poor service...

**Mystic13** · 20th November 2008, 08:57

Originally Posted by Blossom

Sorry off topic here.. but.. does that mean you have upgraded the vl?

I agree some bike shops need to send all their staff on customer service and sales courses. The level of service I have found all over Auckland has been quite bad. Not in every dealership but enough to convince me that when I found one with good service I have stuck with them.

Really... bad service everywhere? I have not had bad service yet with a bike. I've had a good run with pretty much every bike shop I've used for service here in Auckland. The two main dealers I deal with are exceptional being Haldanes Suzuki and Experience BMW. I've also been talking to Wild West Honda about some stuff and think I would get a good run from them as well. On the whole I thought bike service was pretty good.

Even quick stops at out of town stores have been a great experience. Like the neat guys at Phil's Motorcycles in Matamata or Trike Works in Taupo.

Overall I'm surprised how good motorcycle service is whereever I go.

**Katman** · 20th November 2008, 08:59

Originally Posted by Mystic13

or Trike Works in Taupo.

I just blew coffee out my nose.

**vgcspares** · 20th November 2008, 10:17

Originally Posted by jrandom

O RLY?

All I see is interest rates and commodity prices becoming sensible again.

a friend's huisband redundant from an engineering firm in dire straights
a relative redundant from a finance firm (along with a load of others)
a friend lost a job opp as the bank ceased all hiring
another friend in a now shaky 3 man outfit where the cash is not forthcoming from trade debtors

I could go on, all you need to do is save comment til you gain understanding

**jrandom** · 20th November 2008, 10:34

Originally Posted by vgcspares

a friend's huisband redundant from an engineering firm in dire straights
a relative redundant from a finance firm (along with a load of others)
a friend lost a job opp as the bank ceased all hiring
another friend in a now shaky 3 man outfit where the cash is not forthcoming from trade debtors

Like I said, welcome to what happens when easy credit is withdrawn from the system.

Wealth only comes from genuine value creation. Grow food, mine metals, manufacture useful things. The further you are from such activities, the less surprised you should be if your income occasionally evaporates.

And it behooves every employee to examine the commercial viability of companies they decide to work for.