Hyosung is crap

[vr4king]

delete the thread

[cs363]

We were all muppets once, apart from the unfortunate few who just never learn and advance.
Trail rides aren't a race and if you think they are then YOU are the muppet. It's all about having fun, for some people that means just getting out on their bike, exploring new trails and checking out the scenery along with enjoying the company of friends and family - for others it's about how quickly you can do that A loop and for a bunch of others it's how much mud you can spray all over your mates.
I agree that the majority of those Chinese & Korean bikes aren't much chop (lol) but as DELLORTO pointed out, we all have to start somewhere. Hopefully these people don't get put off by problems with their cheapie bikes and upgrade to better equipment as they get more into the sport. I'm all for entry level bikes and getting more people onto bikes, but reliability and build issues do worry me in regard to putting people off riding for good.

My definition of muppets would be those clowns that race up and down the road or around the car park at Woodhill or other trail riding areas or at trail rides and the ones with noisy bikes that are eventually going to deprive us all of land access due to their selfishness and short sighted actions.

Rant ends.

[flyingcr250]

CR was probably out ridden by a noobie on a GT250R on a "challenge" section of a trail ride.
As for TM being crap................

ha ha ha nothing wrong with honda riders. in my experience with the TM bike they dont go too bad and they have a lot of trick parts on them including ohlins shocks.

[flyingcr250]

We were all muppets once, apart from the unfortunate few who just never learn and advance.
Trail rides aren't a race and if you think they are then YOU are the muppet. It's all about having fun, for some people that means just getting out on their bike, exploring new trails and checking out the scenery along with enjoying the company of friends and family - for others it's about how quickly you can do that A loop and for a bunch of others it's how much mud you can spray all over your mates.
I agree that the majority of those Chinese & Korean bikes aren't much chop (lol) but as DELLORTO pointed out, we all have to start somewhere. Hopefully these people don't get put off by problems with their cheapie bikes and upgrade to better equipment as they get more into the sport. I'm all for entry level bikes and getting more people onto bikes, but reliability and build issues do worry me in regard to putting people off riding for good.

My definition of muppets would be those clowns that race up and down the road or around the car park at Woodhill or other trail riding areas or at trail rides and the ones with noisy bikes that are eventually going to deprive us all of land access due to their selfishness and short sighted actions.

Rant ends.

nuff said, good post

[Quicker_with_age]

I would have to agree with most of the comments here, and I have to say im all for these cheap brand bikes it gives the guys with out much cash to spare a chance to get out there and have some fun and hey they might have a few hiccups along but whats to say they dont have as much fun as you do?? When I was younger all i could afford was very used bikes and they werent exactly reliable either, I guess everyone has their own opinion on this subject though.

[kezzafish]

poor fella was just tryin to spit his rant like the rest of us... terrible punctuation tho ha haaa

[325rocket]

what the hell was all that about?

[tri boy]

what the hell was all that about?

cr125nz cleans up chemical spills. Guess the fumes have finally got to him

[mattwood]

I would have to agree with most of the comments here, and I have to say im all for these cheap brand bikes it gives the guys with out much cash to spare a chance to get out there and have some fun and hey they might have a few hiccups along but whats to say they dont have as much fun as you do?? When I was younger all i could afford was very used bikes and they werent exactly reliable either, I guess everyone has their own opinion on this subject though.

I kinda agree, I started out on a chinese bike. Sure it was alright for the confdence but I would of been heaps better off with an old XR. EVERYTHING and i mean EVERYTHING broke on my chinese bike. I was buying a new kickstart every 2 or 3 weeks because they would jst snap, everytime i dropped it the plastics would snap in 5 or so places The shocks were so shit it wasnt funny either, after a jump the back would just bounce up and down for the next 20 meters I never got it to a trail ride though, me and dad were to embarassed! Plus i didnt want to be pushing it the whole way back! When i got on the KX it was like a whole new world! I started to enjoy riding!

[slimjim]

well this is worth a wait..... poor lad...has he gone into hiding.?..muppet was something you put your hand into..was it..or is that.."lambchop"

[Sammikins]

got a brand new suzuki for $3500 off the shelf, no probs whatsoever....

[bc4eva]

got a brand new suzuki for $3500 off the shelf, no probs whatsoever....

on that note, my first bike cost a $1000 and bought it 2 weekends ago - '93 Yamaha 250. Unfortunately it was way to powerful for me (being a beginer) but my mate was using it and was keeping up with some newer 450's.

Though thats probably a lucky buy, no problems with it at all just minor things to replace.

[CRF119]

Interesting comments about Hyosung considering they make one of the best value for money 250cc road bikes on the market

Do they......... if you look in the other forum we have a guy with a lunched one after 17,000km my old suzuki has done 4 times that and has been thrashed. Best value for me means long lasting not cheapest bike of the shelf.

[Sammikins]

Do they......... if you look in the other forum we have a guy with a lunched one after 17,000km my old suzuki has done 4 times that and has been thrashed. Best value for me means long lasting not cheapest bike of the shelf.

here here

[oldskool]

on that note, my first bike cost a $1000 and bought it 2 weekends ago - '93 Yamaha 250.

That's not too bad a deal. Yammy 250's are nice motors. My XR200R cost me $750, is 22 yrs old and still goin strong. Same model from '86 thru to '02 so parts are a plenty.