What's with all the crashes over the weekend?

[slimjim]

While motorcyclists continue to use public roads as their private racetracks we will continue to hear of needless deaths through irresponsible behaviour. Only an attitude shift amongst motorcyclists will change that.

Far too great a percentage of motorcyclists fall into the category of being either guilty of repeated irresponsible behaviour on the roads or being so deep in denial that they just refuse to recognise the problem.

Dearee...is your record broken...? the lady's have said that your writting was full of crap..motorcyclist's are parent's are cage drivers,are truckies,and want how many are real 1%...not on this site,expect if retired.....percentage please..

[Katman]

the lady's have said that your writting was full of crap

Yes, hence the denial comment.

[naphazoline]

How many NZers smoke? They brought in the anti smoking law.

How many NZers are parents? They brought in the anti smacking law

look how many NZers are dickheads,but i don't see an anti dickhead law

[Brian d marge]

While motorcyclists continue to use public roads as their private racetracks we will continue to hear of needless deaths through irresponsible behaviour. Only an attitude shift amongst motorcyclists will change that.

Far too great a percentage of motorcyclists fall into the category of being either guilty of repeated irresponsible behavior on the roads or being so deep in denial that they just refuse to recognize the problem.

Not just motorcyclists , I have had the pleasure of being a passenger of a young lady driver, who proceeded to explain her father was a rally driver and she could drive fast like him ....

Scotty was having trouble with the " beam me up button" ,,,so I remained petrified in the passenger seat.


The stats have already been posted on KB , a quick search will show the leading cause ' which I am sure you already Know)

As for Banning , well if the ACC rates fail to cover costs then YES you WILL see measures put in place to cut down on the expense

Stephen

[vtec]

look how many NZers are dickheads,but i don't see an anti dickhead law

Anti-dickhead laws:
Public nuisance
Disorderly behaviour
Careless/dangerous use of a motorvehicle
Objectionable/obscene behaviour (nakedness)

Dickheads are an age old problem and thus there are ample laws regarding them. I qualify as a dickhead and have been prosecuted for being such. I'm fairly sure there's enough laws in place. Now it's up to people to learn how to ride their bikes safely or run the risk of getting killed, and I think it's fair that they get to choose. I could've got myself killed plenty of times. And now I keep all the fast stuff to the track. The laws are there, it's up to people now to decide what's best for themselves.

[ElCoyote]

'S obvious, init? It was nice sunny weather.
Many bikers don't go and and play unless there's zero chance of any weather apart from sunshine.
Me, I don't go out and play at all. I spent the weekend grouting, ungrouting and regrouting my front deck.

You really should get grout and about more

[naphazoline]

Anti-dickhead laws:
Public nuisance
Disorderly behaviour
Careless/dangerous use of a motorvehicle
Objectionable/obscene behaviour (nakedness)

Dickheads are an age old problem and thus there are ample laws regarding them. I qualify as a dickhead and have been prosecuted for being such. I'm fairly sure there's enough laws in place. Now it's up to people to learn how to ride their bikes safely or run the risk of getting killed, and I think it's fair that they get to choose. I could've got myself killed plenty of times. And now I keep all the fast stuff to the track. The laws are there, it's up to people now to decide what's best for themselves.

ha ha ha ha ha ha......

that might be your definition of a dickhead.it aint mine

[GSXR Trace]

My god, 3 in just as many days, this is not good news. Take it easy out there guys, you can enjoy a ride without pushing it to pass or pushing the speed where it gets to point that this becomes the news every night.

[Madness]

That was the previous government the one that wanted to rule your lives in everything .. I do not think that the current one is so bloody pathetic...

Give them time to show their true colours.

[Brian d marge]

Anti-dickhead laws:

.

But you would need subjective Judges ,,,an old man smelling of formaldehyde, wont cut it

you need: a fashionista
a farmer
a Bogun ( or a westie )
a 40 year old born again biker with a mid life crisis and a penchant for tassles
a nerd ( possibly 2 and they dont have much substance)
a FemiNazi

Is six the minimum for a dury ( notice there are no Harley riders included ,,,that goes without saying )



Stephen

[Squiggles]

I doubt bans, but expect noise will be made, and people will push for the hi vis vests, the headlights permanently on, full gear only and limited power output for bikes. The first 3 will be an attempt to counter the car vs bike stats, the 4th for the single vehicle accident variety. If you can't see that, you're blind because they're already pushing it.

I do expect with the conditions lately more motorcyclists will be out on the roads than in winter, so we can expect more car vs motorcycle accidents (proportionally)... but when we see the number of 'bike ends up in a ditch' type going up, theres something to be said for it... So get out the WD40 and unstick all your mates before your weekend ride with them...

[Beemer]

How many NZers smoke? They brought in the anti smoking law.

How many NZers are parents? They brought in the anti smacking law.

Do you really think that motorcyclists have the power, or even the credibility, to force the government to change it's mind once it's chosen to head down a certain path?

Need I remind anyone of Wire Rope Barriers?

I think we have about as much chance of the current government banning bikes as we do them banning guns. The outcry would ensure they never got elected for a second term.

The previous government was reactive rather than proactive, although I'm more than happy to go out and not come home stinking of other people's cigarette smoke. I doubt the anti-smacking law in its present form will remain long. Whether you agree with the rights or wrongs of those two laws, they were probably brought in to protect other people, not the smokers or the smackers. A ban on bikes would not protect anyone other than the motorcyclists and they are more likely to just raise our ACC levies or hit us in other ways.

Another driver was killed near Levin last week and they are now saying she may have been using her cellphone while driving. Are we any closer to a ban on using them in cars?

What I am saying is that there is no way the government is going to say "bikes are dangerous, let's ban them" any more than they are going to tell loser parents who beat their kids to death to stop breeding.

[scumdog]

We are already generally being seen as a bunch of clowns that have scant regard for our own safety.

So very true.

And going by the antics of quite a few riders I saw in the 130km between Chez Scundog and the Burt Munro over the weekend I am surprised the death toll of motorbike riders is as low as it is.

I bet a lot of the drivers in cars and trucks that these idjits passed have a pretty dim view of motorbike riders in general.

[Katman]

I think we have about as much chance of the current government banning bikes as we do them banning guns. The outcry would ensure they never got elected for a second term.

I never suggested they'd impose a total ban on motorcycles. I said they might well consider placing a ban on the importation of any motorcycle over a certain cc rating (or as Squiggles has mentioned - a horsepower limit).

Public outcry???? I don't think so. The general public (other than motorcyclists) would probably applaud it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I never suggested they'd impose a total ban on motorcycles. I said they might well consider placing a ban on the importation of any motorcycle over a certain cc rating (or as Squiggles has mentioned - a horsepower limit).

Public outcry???? I don't think so. The general public (other than motorcyclists) would probably applaud it.

I think "they" have a lot better things to do.

and all those 1340 and 1680cc HD riders might have something to say about that. Hell an entry level HD (with 12 horsepower) is nearly 900cc.