What's with all the crashes over the weekend?

[4Ducati]

You agree with me, then?

Learn to ride your motorcycles properly, people. No amount of good attitude will save you from the unexpected when it happens and you don't know how to respond.

And, of course, no amount of bike handling skill will save you if you're still being a complete knobjockey.

You gotta combine the two. Know your motorcycle, and cultivate humility. Restricting yourself to only one of those virtues is dangerous.

I'm inclined to agree with ya too mate - with the words 'cultivate humility' being bang on really........
For myself, I spend a lot of time on the roads, mostly in 4WD vehicles. Theres 2 differant sorts of riders I fairly consistantly see wanting to leave their mark on my ARB bar on the front..........

1) 'Gang' type riders, who ride in packs - open face helmets - balaclava - Harley - loud exhaust..............rides using intimadation methods against other road users.........and take stupid risks........

2) Sportsbike rider on their own - 1000cc+ - fairly new bike - all the good (& new) riding gear - rides everywhere just waaaaay too fast....

Above is generalisation, which I hate doing, but only going off what I see........

Me, I just love riding my bike - yes, being human, I sometimes 'give it a nudge', when I deem it to be 'safe' to, but always at the back of my head, is my desire to go home again in one piece........

Ride safe - cage drivers will 'eat' you with your own 'mistake', if you can manage to avoid the ones they constantly make.........

[Morepower]

I have said this before but its worth repeating ;

Motorcycles are unsafe at ANY speed .

Its the nature of the beast . I look back at my own "offs" and those of people I know and many have been at 80KMH or less. The reasons are endless but inattention figures highly.
Speed obviously reduces your chances of avoiding trouble and I am as guilty as any of pushing my luck at times , however I would be interested if there is even one person on this site who hasn't. If you hit loose stuff on a corner doing 50kmh you are still in the crap . If you come off what the result is will be due to what you do or do not end up hitting and what part of the body you hit .

You can only minimise the risk by riding a well maintained bike , staying alert , taking every opportunity to upskill your riding and learning to roll the throttle back rather than take a risk.

The best way to say safe is to fit your couch with a roll cage and stay put .

It is tragic when someone is badly hurt or killed , but sometimes its just wrong place wrong time and not because they are doing anything that would be seen as unsafe.

[HEADACHE]

Dumb people doing dumb things with a vehicle on a road. Nothing new. People die everyday - why is this still surprising?

And, of course, no amount of . . . skill will save you if you're still being a complete knobjockey.

shame you don't apply this theory when you run your mouth - I see you still haven't found a plug that fits it yet.

[Mikkel]

Car drivers always have blind spots.

Unfortunately the average blind angle for the common driver, in Chch at least, appears to be approximately 4*Pi.

It's not a "blind spot" if you don't use your eyes to begin with.

But yes, the fact remains, you'd better look out for yourself because no-one else is going to do it for you.


And let's not forget that plenty of people die from things unrelated to motorcycles, so stop worrying about feeling safe because it's just a very relative term anyway.

[Murray]

The best way to say safe is to fit your couch with a roll cage and stay put .

But the government tells me this isn't good for me!!!!!

[MarkH]

Unfortunately the average blind angle for the common driver, in Chch at least, appears to be approximately 4*Pi.

12.57? The meaning of this escapes me.

[4Ducati]

Re blindspots - most car drivers struggle to get their heads around the differance between 'looking' at something, & 'seeing' the same thing..........

Case in point - railway crossings. They 'look' (sometimes..) at the train, but fail to actually 'see' it......with the resulting 'good night Nurse' that follows.

Which hey, is far better than them failing to 'see' a 'bike.........

Sometimes, its also just an 'attitude' thing - I spend a bit of time in trucks, & it always amazes me how many people have the 'death-wise' attitude of 'I've gotta beat the truck.......' Whether thats passing in unsafe places, or pulling outa intersections forcing evasive action.........or whatever......

Ya just sit there going muttering about imbreeders, & asking yaself if they're THAT stupid........

Yip, if they drive a car - 'stupid' is auto default driver programming.........!!!!!

[Bonez]

Re blindspots - most car drivers struggle to get their heads around the differance between 'looking' at something, & 'seeing' the same thing..........

Case in point - railway crossings. They 'look' (sometimes..) at the train, but fail to actually 'see' it......with the resulting 'good night Nurse' that follows.

Which hey, is far better than them failing to 'see' a 'bike.........

Sometimes, its also just an 'attitude' thing - I spend a bit of time in trucks, & it always amazes me how many people have the 'death-wise' attitude of 'I've gotta beat the truck.......' Whether thats passing in unsafe places, or pulling outa intersections forcing evasive action.........or whatever......

Ya just sit there going muttering about imbreeders, & asking yaself if they're THAT stupid........

Yip, if they drive a car - 'stupid' is auto default driver programming.........!!!!!

There's some f'kn stupid motorcycle riders out there too. There's a nice video in the Te Manuwa Museum motorcycle display, in the childrens area, as positive proof of this.

[quickbuck]

There's some f'kn stupid motorcycle riders out there too. There's a nice video in the Te Manuwa Museum motorcycle display, in the childrens area, as positive proof of this.

Oh Darn... Teaching them bad from a young age....

[Manxman]

It's only a matter of time before the government steps in and says enough.

I voted to get rid of the nanny state government 4 weeks ago . You saying they didn't go???

[Katman]

I voted to get rid of the nanny state government 4 weeks ago . You saying they didn't go???

Do they ever?

[Manxman]

Do they ever?

Bugger. Can we try again then?

[4Ducati]

Might take a while to see the effects from the election though. gee, am I glad Labour has finally gone - woulda been a one-way ticket brought for Aussie for me, if they had got in again this time.............

[bryce]

i always remember what a cop said to us about speed when i was at school,if you walk in to a power pole it hurts, if u run in to the poll you,ll ko your self and thats a 3-5k change ..so think what would happen at 50.
i all ways ride with the idear that it,s like a new video game you don,t know who,s trying to kill u , so acted like they all are, i was out with a mate years ago at an interction a bike was coming he pulled out, i yelled at him
he said don,t worry he can move ,no joke this is how same people think, also to those who have been saying to slow down ,most of my closet call have been at sub legel speeds,its seems more to do with luck same times ,

In the stats does it say who pulled out on who,most of mine have been cars pulling out on me ,and why does the news always say a bike hit a car if it was the cars folt,

Tony died on the weekend from what i hard it was the same as my nana in 1990 , tony was on a big bike , nana a zebra crossing will they ban crossings

[bryce]

i always remember what a cop said to us about speed when i was at school,if you walk in to a power pole it hurts, if u run in to the poll you,ll ko your self and thats a 3-5k change ..so think what would happen at 50.
i all ways ride with the idear that it,s like a new video game you don,t know who,s trying to kill u , so acted like they all are, i was out with a mate years ago at an interction a bike was coming he pulled out, i yelled at him
he said don,t worry he can move ,no joke this is how same people think, also to those who have been saying to slow down ,most of my closet call have been at sub legel speeds,its seems more to do with luck same times ,

In the stats does it say who pulled out on who,most of mine have been cars pulling out on me ,and why does the news always say a bike hit a car if it was the cars folt,

Tony died on the weekend from what i hard it was the same as my nana in 1990 , tony was on a big bike , nana a zebra crossing will they ban crossings