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    If a person crashed 3 bikes in 3 weeks

    If a person crashed 3 bikes in 3 weeks. All for aparently different reasons what advice would you offer this person?
    3 Totally different bikes in 3 locations many miles appart.
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    Not much background info, but based on a number of 'assumptions' I'd say chill till the next RRRS Course and get along to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    If a person crashed 3 bikes in 3 weeks. All for aparently different reasons what advice would you offer this person?
    3 Totally different bikes in 3 locations many miles appart.
    give it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebleed View Post
    Not much background info, but based on a number of 'assumptions' I'd say chill till the next RRRS Course and get along to it.
    Agreed! Stay off the road and learn to ride in a carpark.

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    HTFU? (Although, this record kinda indicates they're either a Hard Man, or a f'kn persistent f'ker.)
    Keep trying, they'll soon find out what the limits are / what they're doing wrong?
    Get a safer hobby (like knitting, or knob polishing)?

    By all accounts, Valentino Rossi did a fair amount of crashing early in his career, while finding out what the limits were, and how you could tell when you were at them.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Look how many bikes Stoner smashed in 06... and then came 07

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    On the road? kneecap him before he takes out one of my mates of family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    ....what advice would you offer this person? .....
    get a taxi home from the pub.

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    Hmm so they need to just expect it as part of the learning curve then?
    Hmm
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    Other than spending so much time working on the van and "camping devices" and not on riding....

    ...Stop trying so hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    If a person crashed 3 bikes in 3 weeks. All for aparently different reasons what advice would you offer this person?
    3 Totally different bikes in 3 locations many miles appart.
    Are they a new rider or an old hand.. Cause if a noob? send them off to the riding school.
    Experienced? One has to wonder if they are pushing the limits to hard or getting careless?
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    Emphasising it is for their own safety - I'd have them satisfactorily explain what happened... to you.

    Depending on the person they might try to fob it off with a couple of daft or preconceived reasons, but stay at it until you hear the one that clicks. Denial about how good you are on a bike is common, so is ignorance.

    Both those things will also get someonee very dead so tell them to put their pride aside for a second, don't judge, offer to help, and have them cut any crap and actually explain what happened on each ocassion, and see if there's a common thread.

    Root cause analysis is the thing. In a nut shell...
    1) Accept nothing but the truthful answers
    2) Ask "Why" 5 times.

    Why did you crash - the front wheel slipped out
    Why did the front wheel slip - I braked too hard
    Why did you brake too hard - ... etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Hmm so they need to just expect it as part of the learning curve then?
    Only if they're looking to knock Rossi off his perch.

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    Needs LOTS more info...

    What do you mean by 'crashing'? Just falling off is way different to high-speed collision. Where did the crashes happen (onroad, offroad, in carpark?)

    What is this person's riding experience? How about their attitude? Have they had any training at all or are they in teach-yourself mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Hmm so they need to just expect it as part of the learning curve then?
    Hmm
    Depend what you mean by "crashing".
    Dropping the bike at standstill or low-speed because they're getting used to the weight doesn't count. Hitting another vehicle or running off the road is bad.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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