"Temporary NZers - ban the lot of them".
"I can see the attraction - but they do themselves no favours".
"That looks like fun - but I might get wet".
They love us - they wanna be us.
Well I wasn't expecting you to say no. You'd be stupid to think that. Although once again you haven't even attempted to back yourself up.
What I'm getting at, is sure there have been cases of violence towards bikers. But also, many many cases of car drivers being beaten up by others, killed with hammers, and run of the road, all due to road rage. As riders I don't believe that we get any special treatment.
As people have already said happens to them, I get more thumbs up, smiles, and compliments, than I do the fingers.
Quit while you are ahead, you won't ever get an intelligent debate out of Katman, its not possible.
You crack me up Katman (and the few fuckwits that tickle ya under belly), it's like you think you are the ONLY saviour to bikers & biking as we know it. No one else in the WORLD can deliver the message you do! Hell not possible.
Struth if you didn't start up these threads once a month in no time at all the powers that be will take our bikes away before we all either kill ourselves or enrage the cage drivers of this world into an all out Bikers vs Cagers war in the streets![]()
Central North Island can't be THAT short of mentors to choose from![]()
To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and to endure the betrayal of false friends. To appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know that even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded
Mildly inneresting thread.
As someone who has just come back to mototcycling after a 20 year hiatus , 10 of which were spent happily pursuing another potential targeted motoring group - 4wding- I figure I can at least give a viewpoint.
For the non-biking public motorcycling, as a discrete homogenised entity, or minority, simply doesn't exist. I hate to burst anyones bubble and I stress this is just based on my perceptions as a member of the non-biking public - but bikes and bikers just aint on the radar. For a few seconds when you actually see one or a group there will likely be a response, but that quickly fades. And this from someone who actually LOVED (and loves again) riding bikes.
We aint that important
Try this: what opinion do you have of big, kitted out 4wds with 36 inch tyres and 4 inch lifts and snorkels and overclocked turbos and high-speed winches who love tearing all over the countryside?
Have a beer of they haven't crossed your mind in the last month or more.
It's not an issue to the vast bulk of the public - jest like bikes.
Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet
So deluded, to the point that I agree with the whole message, just not how you personally go about it. So I happily read & take on board everyone else's message that is fit to give such advice, because, thank goodness, you are by a long shot not the only one able to pass on such a message.
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To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and to endure the betrayal of false friends. To appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know that even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded
Welcome to the site. Nice post btw. So very true. So few bikes are on the road, so few idiots doing things they shouldn't (in view of cagers at least lol).
It's only a strung out old man who's about to pop a vain in his neck that would even try to suggest that the vast majority of the public think that way about bikers.
ps: Katman starts these threads once a month or so (been goin on a while now). Always starts and ends the same, a loaded question & a lot of dribble coming from Katman to genuine questions, he never backs anything up, no intelligent debate, just short sharp grunting type posts seem to be his staple diet.
Believe it or not but this clown has been made a Mentor by this site
Truly astonishing to think a site like this would want to associate their name with an asshat that carries on like he does.
To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and to endure the betrayal of false friends. To appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know that even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded
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