Electric Car 2.8 sec to 100kph

[Tank]

I had to laugh - yes it pushes a Atom (that weighs exactly the same as my left nut) to 100km very quickly.

But if it had to push the same weight as a Ferrari or a Lambo, or worse a family car it would still be trying to reach 100 kph now.

Fuck - I can put a sewing machine engine on a matchbox car and make it go fast as well - but its the real world applications that stuff it.

[wbks]

That car may be quick to 0-60mph like you say but after that it will be shit, they all have fuck all for speed beyond that.

To be honest the 0-60mp/100kph test is such bullshit, it tells you fuck all about the performance of the car. I get sick of hearing about it on top gear and the bullshit car programs. The proper test is 0-100mph/160kph... that test is actual useful performance info.

True. But you know how car drivers like to hear how the new car has a nice new carbon bonnet, or a bigger turbo. And then listen to Richard Hammond share his mass of knowledge about bikes and how we commit suicide by knee sliders

[Finn]

Saw that, kinda seems wrong to have all that grunt and no noise!

Just add 1 x wife. Problem solved.

I think that it will take a lot longer before electric cars are mainstream. Could you imagine what would happen to our grid if 50% of vehicles in NZ were electric and they were all put on charge at 5:30pm? Someone would have to be shoveling coal pretty fast to keep up.

Not to mention your first power bill... ouch.

New, smaller petrol cars are still cheaper and are less harmful to the environment.

[Ixion]

Because of the torque characteristics of electric motors it is quite easy to build an electric vehicle that has remarkable acceleration. Or a realistically high top speed. Or a acceptably decent range /recharge time. Choose one only.

And there is the nub. Effective electric vehicles are at least 3 technology breakthroughs away. And may never be cost effective over the IC engine. Assuming that not being attached to a grid wire is a requirement.

Why spend a shed load of money and effort trying to build a half way decent car (or bike) using an electric drive, when the IC engine already does the job quite well at far less cost.

[wbks]

If everyone rode zx6r's we could be going a shit load faster and still save the earth with 50 mp/g!

[Winston001]

Why spend a shed load of money and effort trying to build a half way decent car (or bike) using an electric drive, when the IC engine already does the job quite well at far less cost.

One reason - internal combustion engines produce hydrocarbon waste = pollution.

If we could have an engine and totally capture it's emissions for later conversion or burial, that might work - but its a bit messy. Better to have an engine with no harmful emissions at all. I have my doubts about the hydrogen fuel cell but there are other ideas being worked on.

[dipshit]

To be honest the 0-60mp/100kph test is such bullshit, it tells you fuck all about the performance of the car. I get sick of hearing about it on top gear and the bullshit car programs. The proper test is 0-100mph/160kph... that test is actual useful performance info.

It bet the paints off a CBR600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

[imdying]

Why spend a shed load of money and effort trying to build a half way decent car (or bike) using an electric drive, when the IC engine already does the job quite well at far less cost.

Because for all the bullshit artists on the interdweeb, the closest they've come to a water powered car is an electric one charged from a hydro dam.

[Winston001]

To be honest the 0-60mp/100kph test is such bullshit.........the proper test is 0 -100mph/160kph... that test is actual useful performance info.

We'd probably all agree except that in the real world of cars, most of the time they travel at 20 - 80k if you take into account city traffic and clogged motorways. So what a car buyer needs to know is whether his car can get to the next gap in the traffic faster than the other guy.

[Badjelly]

If everyone rode zx6r's we could be going a shit load faster and still save the earth with 50 mp/g!

I'm trying to imagine a world in which the only vehicle on the road is the Kawasaki ZX6R. I'm not sure that it would be a good thing!

[slofox]

That car may be quick to 0-60mph like you say but after that it will be shit, they all have fuck all for speed beyond that.

The Tesla is good for 125mph - and is electronically limited to this speed - capable of plenty more if unrestricted.......

[davereid]

Its a great concept car, but you onl have to scratch the surface to see that all it really does is show how far electric cars have to go before they will be useful.

Its the best we have got, yet its not really any faster or quicker than the 2L petrol version.

Its doesn't have lower emissions. The exhaust pipe has just been relocated to Huntly Power Station.

You can't claim it runs on renewable energy, as our renewable energy supplies are already running at capacity.

Any extra network load for new electric cars will be met by coal or oil.

And we can safely assume that the rare metals the battery were made of were dug up with a diesel digger, transported to the smelter on diesel trucks, smelted with coal or gas, before being shipped to the user in an oil powered ship.

It may produce 185 kW, but its 500kg of batteries has only a 25 kW/hr capacity.

So it would be out of fuel in 10 minutes in any real world race.

Fuel cells may be useful, but the hydrogen that powers them mostly comes from natural gas.

And using electricity to make hydrogen from water is terribly inefficient. Especially of you use the natural gas to make the electricity, to make the hydrogen, to make the electricity to charge the battery

Burning Hydrogen is a no-no by the way, as H2O is the by product. And as you know, weight for weight, water vapour is the worst green-house gas.

[racefactory]

It bet the paints off a CBR600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

Off topic: You seriously believed that lol? Most people know how rediculously staged top gear is. Add in Jeremy's very strange hatred towards 2 wheels and the bike was never going to win . The atom is quick off of the line, granted, but a CBR600?? It would have absolutely destroyed the atom after they'd got some speed up. Given both vehicles using street tyres, a bike like that has incredible turning and braking too, in the right hands. You can also even see from the footage the rider was hardly giving it his all... this is not the first time top gear has done such a thing, believe me.

[Ixion]

Because for all the bullshit artists on the interdweeb, the closest they've come to a water powered car is an electric one charged from a hydro dam.

Y' going to tow a dam behind y'bike?

One reason - internal combustion engines produce hydrocarbon waste = pollution.

If we could have an engine and totally capture it's emissions for later conversion or burial, that might work - but its a bit messy. Better to have an engine with no harmful emissions at all. I have my doubts about the hydrogen fuel cell but there are other ideas being worked on.

Pshww. Pollution, schmollution. Dude, I have two strokes that produce more pollution in 30 seconds than a modern bike in a year. I think I'll go fire Petal up and totally blow away the Greenies calculations for the year. And, luvin' it.

[imdying]

Off topic: You seriously believed that lol? Most people know how rediculously staged top gear is. Add in Jeremy's very strange hatred towards 2 wheels and the bike was never going to win . The atom is quick off of the line, granted, but a CBR600?? It would have absolutely destroyed the atom after they'd got some speed up. Given both vehicles using street tyres, a bike like that has incredible turning and braking too, in the right hands. You can also even see from the footage the rider was hardly giving it his all... this is not the first time top gear has done such a thing, believe me.

The 2.3L supercharged Atom is faster from 0mph-100-0 than a GSXR1000 isn't it? (for comparison)

/edit: Nope, second, behind the Veyron, the Atom is 3rd

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5805/

Oh, btw, you're deluded if you think that a CBR600 wouldn't get laid to waste by an Atom round a track like that. Hell, even the 1.6L NA version would probably whup it quite badly