90-day stand down

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US workers were continually told their productivity was very high - yet their wages in real terms, declined 15% over 8 yrs. Now they're all being sacked!
Obviously, productivity figures mean different things to different people..

Rapidly and efficiently manufacturing overpriced and under performing vehicles like fords or harleys... Quite understandable really.

That is simply a reflection of the very prevalent attitude of NZ employers, who expect the country to be filled with a huge pool of highly skilled workers, trained at someone else's expense. But are never willing to contribute anything whatsoever to training or upskilling their own workers. Parasites, in fact.

Correct. It is simpler to go "headhunting" rather than actually training someone.
I see it all the time.

I understand his government will also start fucking with Kiwibank soon.

About fucking time! Have you tried to post a letter recently? The queue is full of retards who want to do their Kiwiwanking, pay a bill or register a cage.
Why dosen't Kiwiwank buy their own premises instead of buggering up the postal system?

Work?
At a council?
Don't you mean you're employed there?

Please do not expect a swift response... He is either at "a meeting" or having an extended lunch break.

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9 years of "cash for babies policies" meant that all the dead beats would breed like rabbits producing more dead beats. ...............

this is something i CAN agree with you on ..... it happens here too

personally i have always thought that the generally lower wage paid to women [please DON'T insult my intelligence by waving 'equal pay' legislation in front of me ..... i don't believe in the easter bunny either ...] is a tacit [although illegal] market reaction to the fact that a fulltime female employee of child-bearing age has the potential to be a significant cost to an employer ....

[fatmonkey]

i reckon its all good, have had some shocking buggers working for me, they always seem to drive away the good staff to

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That too. Wonder why NZ didn't get any of that?

Exactly my point. Here comes a government that can make wages in NZ's already low wage economy even lower...just watch

[SixPackBack]

True. To unions (which have destroyed manufacturing in the US i.e. Motor Vehicle industry) is means people are working too hard and should slow down.

Union mindset is to look after all, with the result being the fastest pace is that of the slowest worker. Business is by and large the opposite, the fastest business being the most successful................the two attitudes are diametrically opposed.
Evolution dictates who wins [kinda obvious really!]

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I think it's a great idea.

I work at a council. There are people who would have been completely incompetant when they started... and they're still here 10 years later. ...........................

that, fella, is the result of incompetent MANAGEMENT,
not inadequate legislation.

[Murray]

Guess it would have been cheaper to call the Police

Did that but then the arguements arose over whose goods they were and they had been purchased elsewhere and they were also gifts from suppliers and sponsorship etc etc etc (soliciting gifts for personal use is also a sackable offence) but hello ring 0800 SACKED and it costs the employee nothing!!!

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I for one value my staff. I wouldn't have a business without them, and I recognise that every way that I can. I have a shortlist of people who have approached me to let them know if a vacancy opens up.

The only employees who would be fearful of this new legislation will be those who have oversold themselves on their CV, demonstrate a poor work ethic, or simply don't fit the workplace culture. Remember, the three month trial period is also an opportunity for new employees to assess their employers and work environment too.

the only employees in YOUR organization mebbe
...... but there are many companies which are not like yours ... and those are the employees most at risk from this

[The Stranger:Me]

About fucking time! Have you tried to post a letter recently? The queue is full of retards who want to do their Kiwiwanking, pay a bill or register a cage.
Why dosen't Kiwiwank buy their own premises instead of buggering up the postal system?

Odd, I didn't seen any queue at the big red box by Caltex.

[Maha]

About fucking time! Have you tried to post a letter recently? The queue is full of retards who want to do their Kiwiwanking, pay a bill or register a cage.
Why dosen't Kiwiwank buy their own premises instead of buggering up the postal system?

Im not bothered by it, and who the hell posts letters in these modern times?
Not a Kiwibanker either, never will be. They done really need premises do they?, I very rearly visit my bank, maybe twice a year? Most transactions can be done online...ahhhhhh thats what Kiwibank need, an online service!!

[Ixion]

i reckon its all good, have had some shocking buggers working for me, they always seem to drive away the good staff to

Who hired the shocking buggers?

[Swoop]

Im not bothered by it, and who the hell posts letters in these modern times?

There has been an upsurge in postal usage since TardMe came into being.
You cannot get a good size parcel into a postbox, either...

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James, its like your beloved labour party, you are getting seriously out voted here

we have free speech
he has one opinion - a product of HIS life experience, others have differing opinions, a product of theirs.

i can't help but notice, though, that it's some of the OTHERS that are using personal abuse and derogoratory comment [a bit like yourself here]rather than straight counter-arguement

i'm by no means an expert - but in my experience people that do that usually think their arguements are inadequate to the point they are losing or going to lose................ no, don't shoot me, i'm merely expressing MY opinion - the product of MY life experience

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Not to mention it being a wonderful Christmas present to the ratbags who will hire young girls : then let them know that if they don't put out they're down the road. And trust me, there are a shed load of such out there. The ratbags charter, I'd call it.

.... an employer actually tried that one on my daughter ........ he regretted it of course [as anyone would who's attention had been diverted by the resultant sharp pain in the testicles] but she obviously had to leave after that

unfortunately many young girls are not taught to be assertive .... mebbe they are the ones that stay employed in many small businesses?
All you who are saying that only incompetent employees will be affected - think on - is YOUR daughter employed in small business? - could YOUR daughter end up being one of them?

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After watching the usual silly schoolboy name-calling and posturing that went on in Parliament yesterday, I see nothing's actually changed.
Do these guys forget they're civil servants, paid by us to run the country?

more to the point, under this new legislation can you fire them within 90 days for incompetence??