Not saying thanks

**Fatt Max** · 18th December 2008, 21:09

Originally Posted by roy.nz

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders dont greet. Get over it and have some manners.

Good point about manners.

I always nod / wave and do you know what, I find the scooter riders the worst for not acknowledging this.

It is manners and people need to re-learn what it is all about.

Believe me, after 30 odd years in London, the world is a better place when you put a bit of nice attitude about

**98tls** · 18th December 2008, 21:10

Originally Posted by roy.nz

Okay stop throwing your toys out of the cot mate, take a few deep breaths and get some yoga going through those vains of yours.
You must own a cruiser and if you didnt like the thread why do you view and reply????
Peace out

40 or so later with 4 in the garage at the moment but not yet a cruiser ever owned i still find waving threads worthy of inspection,remarkably i still find them started by Gixxer owners from Auckland....go figure.Peace out.

**roy.nz** · 18th December 2008, 21:10

Originally Posted by klingon

Hey all you waaaambulance drivers! This didn't start out as a waving thread - it was ruthlessly taken off-track!

Anyway back to the topic of thanking car drivers:

I do a lot of lane-splitting on my daily commute, and a lot of the time I'm using the clutch, throttle and brakes either all at the same time or at least in close succession.

When passing on the open road, sure I give them a wave of thanks. But doing 15 kph between the lanes on Auckland's motorway, there's no way I'm taking my hands off the controls or my eyes off what's going on around me so usually all they get is a nod.

I have also been known to ride along with my visor open yelling "thanks!" into all the open windows. One poor woman nearly jumped through the roof (I suspect she was just a random weaver and didn't actually notice I was there until I yelled in her ear!)

So you telling us that your coordination is so bad that you cant keep tour eyes straight ahead of you and take your left hand off the clutch, keep at 15kph and move the left hand in front of you so that it just pops out a little on the right hand side to give a little way. Come on !

**vifferman** · 18th December 2008, 21:12

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. I don't like lanesplitting on the motorway, but I dislike sitting in traffic with the engine overheating even more. Ended up lanesplitting basically from Apollo Drive - motorway - halfway down Esmonde Road. (Even lanesplit some bike that was trying to lanesplit in a wobbly fashion).
On the motorway, a few cars (maybe 4?) moved over. Like the selfish, nasty person I am, I didn't acknowledge any of them. Why not? Well, I'm not used to lanesplitting in moving traffic, and the catseyes make the bike move around a bit, so I was concentrating on watching where I was going. I didn't ask the cars to move over, nor did I expect them to. Yes, I appreciated it, but I also don't feel obligated to thank them for it. It's more important for me to be sure I'm safe than that the feelings of the considerate car drivers are pandered to.

Oh - by the way: I don't bother waving to other bikers much any more. I am SO over nodding or waving and being ignored.

**roy.nz** · 18th December 2008, 21:14

Originally Posted by 98tls

40 or so later with 4 in the garage at the moment but not yet a cruiser ever owned i still find waving threads worthy of inspection,remarkably i still find them started by Gixxer owners from Auckland....go figure.Peace out.

Well good on you for not owning a cruiser and i hope it stays like that.

**roy.nz** · 18th December 2008, 21:19

Originally Posted by vifferman

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. I don't like lanesplitting on the motorway, but I dislike sitting in traffic with the engine overheating even more. Ended up lanesplitting basically from Apollo Drive - motorway - halfway down Esmonde Road. (Even lanesplit some bike that was trying to lanesplit in a wobbly fashion).
On the motorway, a few cars (maybe 4?) moved over. Like the selfish, nasty person I am, I didn't acknowledge any of them. Why not? Well, I'm not used to lanesplitting in moving traffic, and the catseyes make the bike move around a bit, so I was concentrating on watching where I was going. I didn't ask the cars to move over, nor did I expect them to. Yes, I appreciated it, but I also don't feel obligated to thank them for it. It's more important for me to be sure I'm safe than that the feelings of the considerate car drivers are pandered to.

Oh - by the way: I don't bother waving to other bikers much any more. I am SO over nodding or waving and being ignored.

Can see you are not keen on the splitting.Next time try keep off those small little white things aim your front wheel just next to them and you'l be sweet, trust me i start splitting at constellation and finish at greenlane.

**98tls** · 18th December 2008, 21:23

Originally Posted by roy.nz

Well good on you for not owning a cruiser and i hope it stays like that.

Nice sentiment young fella but fact is times are a changing rapidly and theres no doubt that the right guy on a so called cruiser will show you the way home before your done,simple really,what you ride matters Jack shite its how you ride it.

**Pussy** · 18th December 2008, 21:30

FWIW, I always give a courtesy wave to a cager that's pulled to the left a bit to facilitate my passing...

**chaos rider** · 18th December 2008, 21:41

Originally Posted by 98tls

Actually in hindsight i have been known to wave at the cagers who move over and shower me with stones,

i LUURVE the ones that ride hard left to give you way on impassable roads where there is no chance of overtaking and sit like that for k's on end

poor cyclist get mowed down by these guys

**Mystic13** · 18th December 2008, 21:48

Originally Posted by James Deuce

The path to true enlightenment lies in giving without expectation of receiving.

Yep.... and rather than the original poster thinking they weren't appreciating it...

- they could just as easily think the rider did appreciate it and just couldn't comfortably wave

- or they did appreciate it and said inside their helmets what a wonderful dude they were

It seems to me the problem isn't that they didn't wave etc. It's that you put a negative meaning to not getting a response. As long as you pull imaginary negative meanings out of situations when nothing happens then life is going to let you down. Try the opposite you'll feel much better.

I wave to cruisers and most wave back. I wave to scooters and they usually have an excited wave back. The deal for me is if i stop waving to selected groups it's a downward spiral. What next don't wave to guys on honda's or small bikes etc. I even had a biker on his Harley looking pretty mean give me a good wave on the Napier-Taupo Road.

You have to do what feels write for you but I'd rather arrive home having had 7 bikes pass me and not give me a little thank you wave realising that they appreciated what i did than think "shit, they're an ungrateful lot, I wonder if I shouldn't move over anymore... man this really pisses me off. WalKing in the door and saying to my partner, "you know what happened on the drive home tonight... blah, blah, blah... it really pisses me off". Then after dinner, wander over to KB and post a thread "You know what really pisses me off..." Life is tooooo short to make up negative reasons to what others think about me. I'd rather just wander around thinking everyone loves me and if they don't.... well they just haven't got to know me yet.

I generally believe when something happens that there was a positive reason to the other persons actions, then look for it. It makes life so much more easier.

**98tls** · 18th December 2008, 21:50

Originally Posted by chaos rider

i LUURVE the ones that ride hard left to give you way on impassable roads where there is no chance of overtaking and sit like that for k's on end

poor cyclist get mowed down by these guys

Yep i hear that,what gets me is posts about moving over when your in a cage,so the fuck what and why,we ride bikes so well know its effortless to pass on a bit of straight road,why bother moving over.......................possiby in vain expectation of getting a wave,sad really.

**klingon** · 18th December 2008, 21:53

Originally Posted by vifferman

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. ...

Vegetables.

And I was probably one of the car drivers you didn't wave to. FOURTEEN bikes lane-split past me between Tristram Ave and the bridge and it took me an hour and 15 minutes to get from Tristram Ave to Avondale. I didn't get any waves, but then I didn't expect to. Those riders really needed to keep their eyes peeled with the madness going on.

Speaking of peeled, it seemed that a truck had lost a load of vegetables. There was a trail of carrots and potatoes from Onewa Road up & over the bridge. I wouldn't have wanted to be sailing underneath when it started raining carrots.

**klingon** · 18th December 2008, 21:58

By the way, I was delighted to be overtaken by 14 bikes. On my way home the other day I was caught in another jam (although for a much shorter time) and not a single bike overtook me. I was devastated. It's sad when I have to get my thrills vicariously because my bike's in bits all over the floor.

So all you people riding south on the Northern at knock-off time, PLEASE overtake the grubby white corolla. Its driver really needs some cheap thrills.