Biker carnage on the increase (Stuff article)

[Tone165]

More on this here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=86447&page=9

[AllanB]

Fuck off! Part of the enjoyment of motorbikes is corners. Actually, most of biking is about corners.

If you haven't learnt to appreciate that, then go get a scooter.
What would you know? Have you been to a track day and experienced the fun?

I've been riding for over 27 years continuously, I've even been around a few of those bendy corners you speak off. Fraken strange things they make my motorcycle lean over, very disturbing.

For fucks sake Mr Bundy, it's a piss take, a joke, a laugh. Sheez.

Must be the heat today.......

[Ixion]

which is seriously missing the point. I am very sure that we have a lot more bikes on the road now compared to 2000, and medical costs have skyrocketed in the last 10 years.

So using those two figures alone, we must be having less crashes per capita.

Does anyone have the 2000 registration figures compared to 2008 ones?

For the last three years :

OK, the total number of bike crashes and deaths ahs risen over the last three years. But, per 10000 bikes registered (same sources), it's actually gone down

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

[Big Zappa]

For the last three years :

OK, the total number of bike crashes and deaths ahs risen over the last three years. But, per 10000 bikes registered (same sources), it's actually gone down

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

Wow, funny how nobody (ie media etc) picked up on this..

[Anarkist]

Wow, funny how nobody (ie media etc) picked up on this..

Picked up on, or 'ignored' for a more persuasive story?

[Winston001]

For the last three years :

OK, the total number of bike crashes and deaths ahs risen over the last three years. But, per 10000 bikes registered (same sources), it's actually gone down

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

Interesting. Whats the source of the data? As for the media, they aren't going to find such info unless it is spoon-fed to them. Todays journalists are driven by deadlines and the expectation of "beating up" every story. Sensationalising.

I love bikes. I ride too fast sometimes. I get a clenched bowel every now and then from an overcooked corner or a cage doing something unexpected. '

Riding motorcycles is inherently thrilling - and dangerous. Thats why we do it. Can't complain if other taxpayers object to paying for us deliberately putting ourselves at risk, and needing medical care.

[James Deuce]

Interesting. Whats the source of the data? As for the media, they aren't going to find such info unless it is spoon-fed to them. Todays journalists are driven by deadlines and the expectation of "beating up" every story. Sensationalising.

It is spoon fed to them. It's on both the LTNZ and Stats NZ sites.

[Ixion]

Interesting. Whats the source of the data? As for the media, they aren't going to find such info unless it is spoon-fed to them. Todays journalists are driven by deadlines and the expectation of "beating up" every story. Sensationalising.

...

Ministry of Transport's own figures. From their website. 2005, 2006, 2007. More, including rebuttal of the "it's the old gits falling off" claim , here

[Skyryder]

I seem to recall reading something recently about the Govt intentions doing something about the 'increase' of bike crashes. Never kept the link but I'm guessing it is going to be draconian one way or the other.

Daresay we will all find out what.................sooner than later.


Skyryder

[Mia]

Wouldn't sweat- it as, the sun goes down the, cold sets in motorcycle crashes will decline because the majority of them will be tucked up in sheds with covers until the sun comes out again..
Then the Media & everyone else will find something else to talk about...

[BMWST?]

This here : ACC claims have gone from $36.7 million in 2000 to more than $62.5m. is code for legislation is coming your way Mr and Mrs biker peeps.

and if bkes regos have gone up as much so have the collections of levies....the main point is ....as car numbers are going up are their costs going down????

[Tone165]

ACC levies up for bikers!

To me that's like saying women should pay more tax because they use hospital and legal resources when they are raped.

The stats for numbers of crashes are worthless because many car on car accidents do not cause injury at all...and therefore do not show up in the figures...even though they are caused the same way as bike accidents.

Even minor bike accidents involve injuries, and are almost all recorded in the stats.

So when you see figures of crashes...insert the word "Reported" somewhere.

[JMemonic]

Wouldn't sweat- it as, the sun goes down the, cold sets in motorcycle crashes will decline because the majority of them will be tucked up in sheds with covers until the sun comes out again..
Then the Media & everyone else will find something else to talk about...

And that might just be part of the problem, folks who get their bikes out on sunny days, or those who get their bikes out in the warmer days of spring and put them away with the first rain of autumn and get say 5 months of riding in.

[FROSTY:Me]

Heres another perspective on it too.
The medical system is so fucked up its costing MORE per patient to deal with accidents.
Example 1--I joined the "chain gang" --hospital 1 unable to deal with it so ambo transfer to hospital 2
example 2 --sleep time on taupo track.
Hospital 1 ill equiped so unable to deal with the damage
sent to hospital 2 who spent hours to deal with and pre op on busted arm/wrist. before -no yer outa zone so send me to hospital 3 for treatment.

[Gizzit]

What I get from that "stuff it" article is that .... females driving cages, while on the cell phone ..... is the REAL problem !!!





sits back ..... waits for female to soundly thrash me. You know I deserve it! ...