Two bikes down near Akaroa 27/12 (fatality)

[Tank]

I guess this one is forgotten once the 35 Questionairre is done when ur 15 I usually dont overtake people when im in my car, but the bikes a wee bit different. U can get out an in so much quicker so it makes it "safer" to make a passing manover. maybe thats why they call bikers "maniacs" ? I have no concern about seeing motorcycles as traffic, its jst they come up on u quicker that cars. Gave me a wakeup today about passing as i said in the previous post

PM me your address - I will send you a new keyboard with all the letters U seem to be missing

The fact seems that some bikes can't get in and out quickly enough - despite what the rider may think.

Sadly - this is why we have this tragic thread.

[Richi]

holy fuck can anyone else feel the love??





.......and another butchered thread?

omg yeah read the thread title!! I was just trying to say even though the terrible circumstances, that this has actually helped someone. I am sorry

[toycollector10]

I'm not going to comment directly regarding the crash until I've seen the Coroners Report in about six months time.

I put the following post up on kiwibiker on the 21st of October 2007, over a year ago..

QUOTE
I was riding today and it was just more of the same from my fellow motorcyclists.

To the guy who came up on me very, very, fast and overtook me on a left hand medium to slow bend. Why? You didn't know me from sh*t and I could have been a newby who was going to drift out and either hit you or push you into on-comming cagers. Ride with your light on too son, people will be able to see you that way.

To the two guys coming down Dyers Pass road: KEEP LEFT F****RS!

To the idiot with his fat GF on the back of his BMW who overtook me heading up Dyers Pass: KEEP LEFT. DON'T OVERTAKE ON A BLIND CORNER! DON'T CROSS THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE ON A BLIND CORNER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A RIGHT HANDER YOU FOOL!

And on and on it goes. I don't know who the hell you are all trying to impress.

I'm always bloody unimpressed by this sort of s**t.

And that was just today.
UNQUOTE

And here's the thread just to recap. Read it and digest what the sentiments are. They have never been more relevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=59315

[Richi]

I believe the reason it's not commonly used as you describe here is that it's illegal to do so.

OK talkin about the flashin of the high beams. On many cars is says "pass" to the direction of the headlight lever that puts the high beams on whilst the lever is held on. I NEVER knew that pulling the high beams on meant u were going to pass, however it DOES make sense that given the labelling. I never clicked. Perhaps I didnt know this because of the fact u have just said it is Illegal? anyone care to elaborate the rules on this? Im only 21 been driving 6 years and dont know wtf to do? I just (in a car) indicate and go for it foot flat till i make the pass and then hit the brakes once im back in to the speed limit. the bike i just "Lane divide" in front of cars, many car drivers move for me and like to "let me in" very nice of them

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

The fact is sadly, fellow bikers have died doing what they enjoyed doing, regardless of who did what and when.
It should not be seen as an opportunity by Katman or anyone else to do the 'I told you so sermon'
Where is the fukin respect for those no longer here.

Isnt the perpose of this thread to inform of the tragedy, offer an opportunity for others to give there condolences and move on with respect.........FFS

[Ocean1]

OK talkin about the flashin of the high beams.

Dude, it's been years since I stumbled on that.

PM scumdog or Patrick, they might shed some light on the issue.

[chanceyy]

as Kiwi Graham above states this thread is to inform of the tragedy, & for ppl to offer their condolences.

yes the nazi mod is on duty again & off topic posts have been moved, and will continue to be moved .. so why do you not take your debate to pd where it belongs

[marty]

I believe the reason it's not commonly used as you describe here is that it's illegal to do so.

unless you can back this up with a link to the relevant legislation, I suggest you're wrong.

[Richi]

unless you can back this up with a link to the relevant legislation, I suggest you're wrong.

OK whether hes right or wrong the rode code doesnt explain, nor do road users. it would be nice to see a link one way or the other to inform motorists (like me) on what u are meant to do.

[blairh]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4804943a11.html
Yeah that really sums it up pretty well for me..

[Richi]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4804943a11.html
Yeah that really sums it up pretty well for me..

yea it sums it up but im prepared to take sides i know how people can be misread/misinterpreted my the media. I am just sad this had happend and i hope people can learn from it. I will certainly be more picky at times to overtake cars because of this. I just hope the families have the support to get through this tough time...

[Old Skool Subbie]

Yea i heard bout this the other day. Sad thing to happen. So many hurt. RIP.

Ive had an few near misses in my car with motor bikers on blind corners. It scared the Hell out of me.
I was slowing to go round a blind corner on the old Tai Tap Rd and this Motor cyclist leans and comes right into my lane. i ended up pulling up on to the grass. I was amazzed i didnt take his head off. would had only been an few cms from his helment hitting my car.

Another time was this idiot with an passager was trying to out run an cop at speed on the Summet Rd. Both times happend on blind corners. even the cop almost hit us too.

[blairh]

As I said earlier.. there's no point in us all sitting around feeling sorry for people. The point is to learn from this mistake and make sure none of us do it ourselves. That way maybe we'll save another 3 lives....

I personally think that's worth a sermon.

[Jantar]

As I said earlier.. there's no point in us all sitting around feeling sorry for people. The point is to learn from this mistake and make sure none of us do it ourselves. That way maybe we'll save another 3 lives....

I personally think that's worth a sermon.

But when a rider performs the same stupid passing move and doesn't take out 3 others at the same time, there is no sermon. So why should there be in this case?

[blairh]

But when a rider performs the same stupid passing move and doesn't take out 3 others at the same time, there is no sermon. So why should there be in this case?

Wtf?? Because 3 people died...

I think the point is, DON'T do stupid passing moves, and you won't risk killing yourself/other people. Doesn't get much simpler than that..