Kiwi Bikers. What's happening to this site?

[Maha]

And to think, a year or two ago it was a completely different place.

To a degree yes.

[Nasty]

I could be wrong Mark but the general feeling [for those in the know] was your thread was a thinly veiled reference to a personal disagreement with you/mom [primarily] and other well know KB character/s. To use your own words 'bitchfighting' and not 'letting it go' fit well. Those on the side lines looked on with heavy hearts as solid friendships took big hits, frankly many would prefer things to go back to the way they were [something that would require movement for all concerned].

This thread however has merit. Beyond gets 'bashed' with monotonous regularity. Every time some one dies of late the protaganists eventually point to him in the erroneous belief that some how he should burn for others mistakes....nailing him to a cross so to speak. Lies are presented as truth and often nothing short of a drunken rant ensues for totally unfathomable reasons. The attacks on Beyond are cyber bullying and frankly if the same process was happening to many of the other awesome folk on KB [yourself included], many of us would be speaking up and telling them to fuck off.

Directly ... flaming from a number of directions is happening to many on this site ... it is not just BEYOND ... but others who are in the midst of crap which is personal and to tell you the truth ... if people won't actually discuss shit then it can not be dealt with ...it is really upsetting to all involved .. calling people out really does not help ... chinese whispers and crap like that is unwarrented and really bloody pathetic.

[dipshit]

I ride the way I ride because I enjoy it.

So you are out on the roads having a fun joyride then?

From the viewpoint of the video camera, it may look dodgy but a vid camera viewpoint gives no spatial awareness at all.

Well the camera clearly shows you passing other bikes without even having the decency to move out into the other lane.

Check with Blackbird and his mates who just happened to be the riders I overtook. None of them were upset about my riding on that day.

And they also said that they hadn't seen you coming and the first thing they knew was you blasting past. Just goes to show that you cannot assume everyone has seen you coming. You will be flying by many of those bikes in *their* lane without them realising you are coming.

I never felt uneasy, had plenty of room and yes, for someone else it might have been well beyond their rider envelope.

Yes we all know you think you are a good rider.

But what was the reason for such a rush that waiting a few seconds to make cleaner passes was out of the question for you? Why?

[dipshit]

Happy to play 'the constructive feedback' game.............you pay for ALL the tyre, looks like you might be frightened to cash that puppy in?......yeah, yeah I know, they is safety strips. Horseshit.

Interesting. Why do you think this matters? Are you really that caught up in the faster = better mentality?

No wonder the likes of beyond are your heroes.

[dipshit]

I am supposed to come up with new answers, new responses and justify certain things to a bunch of people who obviously have forgotten what it's like to ride a bike and enjoy the freedom and liberty of motorcycling.

I enjoy my motorcycling enormously. What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't. Do you think you can just because you ride faster..??

[dipshit]

I agree but I know Beyond and yes he may be a quick rider but his attitude is top notch and that is important to remember...I know he got some stick for the vids but to me it shows that he is a safe rider and that this should only be done if you know what you are doing.

You obviously have some pretty low standards then.

For a lot of us riding our bikes over the speed limit...not difficult...is an escape from our demons and there are a lot worse crimes that we could commit..

No matter how fast you go, you can never outrun your demons. (unless you bite the big one of course)

[AlBundy]

What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't. Do you think you can just because you ride faster..??

We could ask you the same question... Except for you guys being slower... Are you implying that anyone who rides at a higher pace must automatically be dangerous?

Apart from that, are you a saint or not? This goes for Katman too...

You two are forever on high horses. If the two of you have ever done anything illegal or made a bad call, you better start shutting the fuck up.

[puddy]

what took you so long katman, you been in the closet

Still is?

[McJim]

I get the impression you guys are slower, so anyone that rides at a higher pace must automatically be dangerous?

Nah - they have a go at me too when I post and I ride a 53hp bike and ride like a nana.

They have Suzukis (which are the Subaru Imprezas of the bikie world ) of 1,000cc or greater so they must be hoons - why else would you need a bike that big?

[AlBundy]

Nah - they have a go at me too when I post and I ride a 53hp bike and ride like a nana.

They have Suzukis (which are the Subaru Imprezas of the bikie world ) of 1,000cc or greater so they must be hoons - why else would you need a bike that big?

Lol... Maybe they have small penises and are compensating....

After all, there can be NO other reason to have anything bigger by KB mentality...

[puddy]

Lol... Maybe they have small penises and are compensating....

After all, there can be NO other reason to have anything bigger by KB mentality...

EXACTLY! I don't know about the other guys, but I personally got an extra half an inch when I got the GSXR1000! I know that doesn't sound like much, but that was heaps more than I got from ALL the other products that I'd tried combined!

[Usarka]

What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't.

Bloody good point.

[The Stranger:Me]

I could be wrong Mark but the general feeling [for those in the know] was your thread was a thinly veiled reference to a personal disagreement with you/mom [primarily] and other well know KB character/s. To use your own words 'bitchfighting' and not 'letting it go' fit well. Those on the side lines looked on with heavy hearts as solid friendships took big hits, frankly many would prefer things to go back to the way they were [something that would require movement for all concerned].

Yeah, you're pretty well spot on there Sixpack.
Honestly it was rather painful to watch and doing no party any good.

Sorry that you can't see that you were doing yourself no favours and that it was intended for the benefit of both parties.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Directly ... flaming from a number of directions is happening to many on this site ... it is not just BEYOND ... but others who are in the midst of crap which is personal and to tell you the truth ... if people won't actually discuss shit then it can not be dealt with ...it is really upsetting to all involved .. calling people out really does not help ... chinese whispers and crap like that is unwarrented and really bloody pathetic.

theres two sides to every thing i like to look at things from every angle i dont give a shit if [the unnamed kiwibiker] are upset about there inabilitys to look in side themselves to see there true selves for what they are and relize life is not about geting pepole to look at you all the time no man is the centre of the universe and thats all i have to say about that.

[Blackbird]

And they also said that they hadn't seen you coming and the first thing they knew was you blasting past. Just goes to show that you cannot assume everyone has seen you coming. You will be flying by many of those bikes in *their* lane without them realising you are coming.

We didn't need to know he was coming as we were properly positioned and so was Beyond. You weren't there and we were which is all that needs to be said.

However, Beyond's question about what is happening to KB is a far more important issue and is why I don't bother to join in much these days. A shame in many ways as I've met some wonderful people through KB over the years but in all truth, I can't be bothered to wade through the vindictive, ignorant crap that is increasingly spouted.