THE corner in the Rainbow

[skidMark]

As this corner is a left hander the typical line is the LH wheel track which means you typically get plenty of camber to help you. Part of the issue with this corner is that the camber rapidly rolls off and becomes negative meaning that you need to reduce your speed rapidly. That combined with the rapid tightening of the corner is the got ya.

It is not practical to do anything about the camber as we have no budget for this work whatsoever. Therefore the only thing we can do is provide more of an indication of the tightening of the corner. In the first of the photos of mine that you posted, you can just make out my XTZ through the bushes at about mid bush height (a white spot in the bush). I'm proposing to remove those bushes so you can see the road at that point.

Removing the bushes immediately inside the corner will not enable you to see the road past the apex much sooner, maybe about 10m sooner. However if we transplant those bushes to the outside of the corner (outside the ditch) it will be clear that the road is much tighter than it appears. It is very common and well understood now that lamp posts, hedges etc can either be used to reinforce the shape of the corner or they can deceive. There is quite a cool diagram in one of the manuals at work that shows this but unfortunately I don't have access to it at the moment.

Cheers R

Why it's only off camber, you dont really lean that much on gravel roads anyway. You are standing on the pegs and slinging your upper body into it.

Only issue i had ever had with off camber corners was peg down too quick, never had any problems whatsoever with difference in traction because of this be it tarmac or gravel.

[Mr. Peanut]

It's one of these corners I expect.

[NordieBoy]

Actually I've never heard of or seen a grader in there but I do know that a dozer (station) and excavator (transpower) goes through every season. I suspect that much of the grading work is done by the dozer on its way to and from Hells Gate and beyond to clear the slips.

On the 2004 Rainbow Rage the grader had broken down half way leaving a long stretch with a nice ridge down the middle of the road.
The MTB's had no problem but the vehicles following had some issues

[_Shrek_]

Why it's only off camber, you dont really lean that much on gravel roads anyway. You are standing on the pegs and slinging your upper body into it.

Only issue i had ever had with off camber corners was peg down too quick, never had any problems whatsoever with difference in traction because of this be it tarmac or gravel.

skiddie you have no Idea what this corner is like until you have been there, & you trying to teach us to sux eggs on this matter is starting to get

Grading might be a little bit of a stong word. It is not done very well as evidenced by the windrow of gravel on the shoulders of the road. The Molesworth and Molesworth farm section of the Rainbow road have been graded properly but almost too deep as there is a lot of loose gravel on them now unless you are in the wheel tracks.

Actually I've never heard of or seen a grader in there but I do know that a dozer (station) and excavator (transpower) goes through every season. I suspect that much of the grading work is done by the dozer on its way to and from Hells Gate and beyond to clear the slips.

Cheers R

the grading is done R, but only to a certern $$ standard hence the xtra charge's, lets hope they put it back into the track

M/W rd, most times the grader can only use what is there not always a good thing

[FJRider]

Perhaps find out when he's going through next, and be there with "refreshments", and a little extra time may be "allocated" to that corner...

[Woodman]

[QUOTE=_Shrek_;1884588] skiddie you have no Idea what this corner is like until you have been there, & you trying to teach us to sux eggs on this matter is starting to get

Skidmark is just havin a bit of fun, I don't think he actually means much of what he says.

[Jantar]

Unfortunately, skiddie DOES believe what he says.

[PLUG]

Unfortunately, skiddie DOES believe what he says.

... a ledgend in his own anal scratchings ...

[PLUG]

It's one of these corners I expect.

... dats da one ... & they had pace notes/cautions ...

[sidecar bob]

Why it's only off camber, you dont really lean that much on gravel roads anyway. You are standing on the pegs and slinging your upper body into it.

Only issue i had ever had with off camber corners was peg down too quick, never had any problems whatsoever with difference in traction because of this be it tarmac or gravel.

I can barely believe that with your un equalled bike control skills that you are online today. I fully expected you to be giving Shirrifs Stroud & Bugden the hurry up at the nats this weekend.
Its a damn shame, the sport needs more riders of your calibre to pull the crowds.

[Kokopelli]

Thanks for telling me about 'the corner' the video really shows how deceptive it is. Thankfully I am too chicken to ride fast as the rider in the video, but I know that shit can happen at any speed. Good luck with your quest.

[Padmei]

Unfortunately, skiddie DOES believe what he says.

Go easy guys. I remember when I was young & knew everthing - what surprises me now as I get older is how much I've forgotten

[NordieBoy]

Go easy guys. I remember when I was young & knew everthing - what surprises me now as I get older is how much I've forgotten

It's down the hall to the left.

No the LEFT!

[_Shrek_]

It's down the hall to the left.

No the LEFT!

what surprises me now as I get older is how much I've forgotten

lift both lids & point

[OV Lander]

Okay so I've read the thread (well, most of it!) and I am completely confounded by the level of resistance to Ryans' re-engineering suggestions with a view to making 'The Corner' more obvious.

As somebody who has spent many days and weeks undertaking Search and Rescue missions to pull people out of the bush, both inexperienced fools and experienced experts, and as somebody who has lost a very good (and experienced) friend to the bush I whole heartedly support Ryans' proposal.

I would counsel that the cost of a rescue, the human cost to the injured party and their families (Good on ya MagicFairy!) then the efforts required to modify a track to 'assist', not nanny, is a small price to pay.

The trouble is it is always the same people that are willing to spend time supporting the continuity of a sport, and always the same 'others' that steadfastly refuse to contribute.

Based on your comments SkidMark (since we've never met) I can only assume that be you experienced or otherwise, you fall into the 'Fools' camp who takes everything they can from a sport and seldom contributes to the sport. To you I say, enjoy it while it lasts and for as long as you enjoy your temporary residency status on this planet.

I would also advise, that due to attitudes such the one you have displayed on this thread, I have since quit Search and Rescue and developed a somewhat reluctant belief in Darwinism - the strongest will survive and the dumbest will fall short. 'Gene-o-Kleen' if you like!