Is this legal?

[Tank]

At the end of the day - if they are a little loud you will probally get away with it forever.

Its the very loud bastards that attract attention and will get tickets.

The cops are in their right to ticket all in the manner that they are currently.

By all means fight it as much as you like - but in the end they will simply make it illegal to modify / change exhaust on bikes without getting a certification at the outset to prove your modifications are acceptable.

[NordieBoy]

This seems to me to mean that they are needing to make sure that the pipe they sell complies with the dBA limits.

And if I put it on a Mini?
A rotary?
A V8?

They can only cert it if they have total control from the manifold back.

[Badjelly]

Ok compare a Honda VTR 1000 with custom pipes to that of any cheap boy racer car with big bore exhaust. Which sounds better?

To the general public, neither.

[scumdog]

Why? Most of them and Scumdog in particular, seem to relish the opportunities this kind of crap legislation presents.

Oh, yeah, man, you bet!!
I must have have I've stopped ooooh, about a jillion bikes and written them off the road, whoo-wee, was THAT ever satisfying..

Ask all the other KBers I ride with, I'm a right arsehole and road-nazi, oooh baby am I ever..

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Ask all the other KBers I ride with, I'm a right arsehole and road-nazi, oooh baby am I ever..

yup sounds like you...

[scumdog]

At the end of the day - if they are a little loud you will probally get away with it forever.

Its the very loud bastards that attract attention and will get tickets.

Now ain't THAT the truth!!

[P n G]

if the pipes were on the bike when passed WOF it should fall back to the wof issuing authority, you could ring them and see what they have to say, bottom line being if they have ok'd the bike for WOF then all should be ok especially considering the cops didn't do an official noise test, if you can be bothered with ra ra shit shit time time to pursue.

[xgnr]

absolutely,
bring back the M.O.T.
maybe we will regain the respect we once had for the police.

Bling for you sir

We "knew" they were arseholes right!

They pull you over... you were screwed.

Arrogant little men in their jackboots and moustaches.

(but maybe I was young and arrogant?? and the fact that the old man was a truckie didn't help in moderating my opinion)

Police were the good guys

[McJim]

Just had a nother look today at the law regarding this.

For bikes over 125cc the allowed sound output is 100 decibels. (for cars it is 95)That's louder than you are allowed to be at Teretonga which has a 95 decibel limit.

So on a bike you are gonna have to be REALLY obnoxious to get pinged.

Scumdog - seems your Harley is gonna get pinged though .

I think in deference to the gubbermint here they have allowed another 5 decibels for bikes over cars so it seems they accept the louder sound output from a two wheeled contraption since the legislation was originally aimed at the boi ricers in their jappas with tiny engines and huge exhausts (unlike we older gentlemen with our big American and Australian cars with big engines and big exhausts )

Chill - what kind of bike do you ride? It would have to be a big twin to make over 100 decibels. Harley? Ducati? TL thou?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

For bikes over 125cc the allowed sound output is 100 decibels. (for cars it is 95)That's louder than you are allowed to be at Teretonga which has a 95 decibel limit.

So on a bike you are gonna have to be REALLY obnoxious to get pinged.

Scumdog - seems your Harley is gonna get pinged though .

Chill - what kind of bike do you ride? It would have to be a big twin to make over 100 decibels. Harley? Ducati? TL thou?

My half Debaffled VTR is 95-96db at about 4500 rpm...

(when I say half only the rear chamber of the can has been debaffled)

[McJim]

My half Debaffled VTR is 95-96db at about 4500 rpm...

(when I say half only the rear chamber of the can has been debaffled)

You've heard my bike - it's not too loud is it?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

You've heard my bike - it's not too loud is it?

I would guess its about the same?

Although I have not been pulled over as of yet due to noise... If I was how do I prove that they are still 96db and have not been altered since the last test... and if that is the only thing I have been pulled up for and they are still 96db then I still have to pay for the test again... again...

and then what is stopping it from happening again... and again... I may not have to pay for the fine but the test to proove will add up quick smartly...

[The Lone Rider]

Ive been pulled over for speeding, but was the loud pipes that gave me away and I was fined for that.

I told the cop that the pipes were under the legal limit. He looked at them and said they look home made. I replied they were made at a muffler shop (the truth in fact!) and I haven't had them chromed yet. He then said if it wasn't so late at night (11pm) he'd take me to a place and get it tested. Then he handed over a ticket.

Regardless of the law written out it still stands that if a cop THINKS your bike is to loud they can ticket you. End of story. That's it. Generally they will only pull you over if you are riding in areas or at times where noise is effective on the community.

In my case I was riding at night where supposidly a lot of houses are (although it was a road lined with car dealers, scrap yards, few industrial places, and some shops the whole length of the road).

And for the record... I miss that hugely loud and obnoxious bike (except for if I have been riding for more than an hour at a time)

And you don't need a big twin to make 100db. Anyone who has heard my last bike.. which was measured at 108db in an informal test 1m behind the bike with a Dick Smiths SPL meter.... knows that it was not coming from a big engine.

[vgcspares]

I'd contest any ticket like that in court, that's for certain ! And if they've got no actual proof they probably wouldn't even turn up and it would be case dismissed.

[Hailwood]

1. Watch your language when you address me

2. Why don't you carry on with your agenda of revenue collection quietly and try not to "think" too much.

Let me guess..the next step will be contacting DB with it and we all know what heppens then...its going INTERNATIONAL!!!!!!!!!!


Short Circuit maybe read some of SDs posts in other threads before making some comments. I havent met him but having read a lot of his posts, he seems like a decent guy who genuinely has an interest in and for motorcyclists. He has also been on this site a very long time.......and has a very high rep level...food for thought anyway....