Did you use L-plates?

[quickbuck]

No L plates in 1977.

Back then learner riders were not allowed to go above third gear for the first six months,fourth if you had a six speed gearbox.

Shit, so you would be limited to what.... 260k on a modern bike if that still the case?

[savante]

That *woooosh* you hear is the sound of Ixion's post going over your head.

I'm glad you said it or else i would have... *lol* It made me snort a little when i laughed.

[fliplid]

Some people don't actually read the replies. Sounded more like a sonic boom though... Made me laugh as well!

[xMythOne]

You think i dont know sarcasm?
if you thought my reply to Ixion was serious, then good for you

Now the thing that annoys me is the fact that no one can say anything on this website. Meaning, i said im "not much of a noob" and most of you took it a bit further and thought i was calling myself a "pro". (what is this? 4chan or something?)

All i was trying to say was, ive worked hard to get the skills ive got by getting a mentor and practice etc. therefore ive surpassed some other learners

i know im a learner, and i know most of the people on here can pwn me on a straight line or race track. I'm no pro, just a noob that has worked hard to be a better noob.

Peace,
xM1

[Tank]

Now the thing that annoys me is the fact that no one can say anything on this website. Meaning, i said im "not much of a noob" and most of you took it a bit further and thought i was calling myself a "pro". (what is this? 4chan or something?)

All i was trying to say was, ive worked hard to get the skills ive got by getting a mentor and practice etc. therefore ive surpassed some other learners

-i don't consider myself that much of a noob anymore, i "race" quite a few other bikes and Ive beaten a few 400cc+ bikes with my 250 ninja.

Yeah - our bad - this comment dosn't make it sound like you rate yourself and race on the roads. Sorry dude - got Squid written all over it. Thats why you got shit.

[EatOrBeEaten]

Really curious about this one- the idea of doing 70 on the motorway seems really f'ing dangerous to me, but I'm a law-abiding wuss at heart (on some things). Everyone I've spoken to in NZ who rides has said to drop the L, and my daily commute to work (the ZZR will be my only form of transport!)involved the motorway, so I'm in a bit of a quandry here...

[mister.koz]

Really curious about this one- the idea of doing 70 on the motorway seems really f'ing dangerous to me, but I'm a law-abiding wuss at heart (on some things). Everyone I've spoken to in NZ who rides has said to drop the L, and my daily commute to work (the ZZR will be my only form of transport!)involved the motorway, so I'm in a bit of a quandry here...

Thats a real tricky one, 70km can seem unsafe when everyone's whizzing past you. I took the L-plate off because i was in 100km zones quite a bit and i felt that i needed to keep up with the rest of the traffic. Weirdly enough I found other vehicles more courteous after i took off the L plate and speed up to the traffic around me.

My advice is to avoid the 100km zones as much as you can, if you have to go on the motorway, pick a speed and spacing that is safe, better to get a ticket than get into trouble with other vehicles on the road.

And get your restricted as soon as possible!

[Leyton]

but I'm a law-abiding wuss at heart (on some things). Everyone I've spoken to in NZ who rides has said to drop the L, and my daily commute to work

My exemption request should be in there offices today... I am asking on just about no merrit. I do not have to ride the bike two and from work I just wrote a 4 page essay on why the 70km limit has proven to be a problem.

I to have found the tin lids pick on you if you have an L plate one, whilst others give you a little space.

Its real weird coming from a tin lid background to having a L stuck on your ass again

... Will post how my exemption request got on, Fingers crossed.

[ColonelKFC]

Once I realised how slow 70Kmh was when cars were zipping past me at 100 I decided to ditch th L plate. I grew up out of Chch so it was a looong ride at 70 Kmh. then I moved bought a different bike and only ever used the L plate for my R test during which I found again how much a pain in the arse it is to hold up lots of traffic.
Got pulled up doing 97 in a 70 zone and when asked about L plates said I was selling the bike. The cop was all good about it. one speeding ticket is one too many. so Ive stayed under the radar since then.
provided you dont break the law you probably wont get pulled over.
I say its safer to leave them off,Or wait till the law change

[Reido]

you've also got to realize that,

yes 70kmph in a 100kmph is dangerous.. with cars wizzing past at "100"
but how many of them are really doing 100....

the majority seem to do 115ish..

so its not just 30kmph faster.. its 45...

[Roki_nz]

you've also got to realize that,

yes 70kmph in a 100kmph is dangerous.. with cars wizzing past at "100"
but how many of them are really doing 100....

the majority seem to do 115ish..

so its not just 30kmph faster.. its 45...

Hmm they might just be doing 100 or 110. On the new Ninja 250 the Speedo is out by roughly 10% so if you’re going at 100 you’re actually doing about 90.

[Reido]

Hmm they might just be doing 100 or 110. On the new Ninja 250 the Speedo is out by roughly 10% so if you’re going at 100 you’re actually doing about 90.

even so, i've been doing "120" and still have people passing me at a fiar pace quicker..

then again you could argue that they could be doing 80 instead of 70..

[Dare]

even so, i've been doing "120" and still have people passing me at a fiar pace quicker..

then again you could argue that they could be doing 80 instead of 70..

Funny, if I do '120' I usually have to lane change every few seconds.
It's like when i'm driving everyone is going faster than the speed limit, but when I'm riding normally according to my speedo everyones a nana. That's my story and i'm sticking to it.

In other news, I worked long and hard for my full drivers license, I put up with people tailgating me whenever I had that L in the window (which was most of the time, I was good back then), I was home before 10 and all the other BS. Restricted, well maybe a little more relaxed but never got in trouble for it. Now I have had a full license for over 2 years and suddenly it's back to a blue license and a curfew? No way =) So i'm sorry and all, but...

• No L plate for me, I never saw the point, only mothers of kids learning to drive tend to be nice to L platers from experience.
• No 70kmh... That's just plain stupid, if your not going at the same speed/faster than surrounding traffic it's an invitation to frustrated cagers, as I found out yesterday when some asian in a honda jazz sat about 20cm from my back wheel, I ended up changing lane to GTFO.
• No curfew, what are these for anyway? Something about reading traffic at night?

Essentially, the change-over was as simple as learning to ride a bike, read the road surface and deal with how people see bikes differently on the road. Admittedly it's quite a big difference, but not one that those three laws really affect in any real way.

Incidentally, is learner-restricted-full 6 months, 12 months or 18 months if you have a 1F license? I want my green license back

Yes, I'm probably a bad influence, it wouldn't be the first time

[Leyton]

• No L plate for me, I never saw the point, only mothers of kids learning to drive tend to be nice to L platers from experience.
• No 70kmh... That's just plain stupid, if your not going at the same speed/faster than surrounding traffic it's an invitation to frustrated cagers, as I found out yesterday when some asian in a honda jazz sat about 20cm from my back wheel, I ended up changing lane to GTFO.
• No curfew, what are these for anyway? Something about reading traffic at night?

I think the curfew is purely so learners are not riding when they should be sleeping when ya body clock is telling you to goto bed.

[Reido]

I think the curfew is purely so learners are not riding when they should be sleeping when ya body clock is telling you to goto bed.

there's a good post about the curfew somewhere,

statics say more learners / restricted drivers/riders crash late at night..
due to most being school aged and being at school most of the day...

something along those lines.. so they put the 10pm curfew..