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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMemonic View Post
    Sorry Sarge not sure what you are getting at here.
    what im getting at ..

    we have a term in the States called " Armchair Quarterback"

    thats the guy who sits on his fat ass every sunday afternoon, never having played a game of football in his life and screaming


    " you idiot!! .. why didnt you do XXX"

    like hes frigging Vince Lombardi or some shit ..


    how do you guys think that cop feels .. hes probably under 30 ( i havnt read).. young family at home .. and he's just taken an innocent life ...

    bet hes in a GREAT mood today

    certainly glad you guys woulda done it differently .. i feel much safer now

    im constantly armed ..just in case some of you guys try and help me.. and no i dont need a gun..


    you want to make a differnece ?? .. .go to a recruiting night for the police .. join the army as infantry.. or the navy as combat specialist ..

    then come tell us how in control and tough you are once you are faced with that choice


    maybe he woulda stopped shooting long enough for you to reason with him and give him a big hug



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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    what im getting at ..

    we have a term in the States called " Armchair Quarterback"

    thats the guy who sits on his fat ass every sunday afternoon, never having played a game of football in his life and screaming


    " you idiot!! .. why didnt you do XXX"

    like hes frigging Vince Lombardi or some shit ..
    Ok got that part now thanks, just wanted clarification.


    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    how do you guys think that cop feels .. hes probably under 30 ( i havnt read).. young family at home .. and he's just taken an innocent life ...

    bet hes in a GREAT mood today

    certainly glad you guys woulda done it differently .. i feel much safer now
    Like I said I wasnt sure at what you meant, likely the officer in question feels like shit, he or she is possibly worried about the ramifications of the softly softly bunch, who through their actions have hamstrung his or her abilities to act effectively in a terrible and challenging situation.

    I would have done nothing differently or nor do I expect the officer to have, what I would like to see is the officer supported by the public, and government, and the police supported with better access to training and practice.



    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    maybe he woulda stopped shooting long enough for you to reason with him and give him a big hug
    Like hell I think its a shame one more round was not fired, into the offenders head
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    Hmm, should read more carefully next time, I thought it was three criminals in the car and one was shot dead, but it appears it was innocent guy, and criminal just got wounded. Completely changes the picture, collateral damage then, sorry for the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmemonic View Post
    ok got that part now thanks, just wanted clarification.

    Like hell i think its a shame one more round was not fired, into the offenders head
    wasnt snapping in on you bro..

    Sorry if it sounded like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Police policy dictates training amounts, time spent on the ranges, is time not catching crims, and speeding motorists. So slow down, dont break the law, and Police will have more time for range practice... but then they wont need more ...EH !!!
    Yeah good point. We don't have many armed events in NZ for the size of our police force so most officers will only come across such situations rarely. Hard to train for something which is unlikely when most of the time its burglaries, common assault, traffic etc. Hard to justify the training time too for excellence in firearms.

    All very well talking about the army, navy etc but their raison d'etre is combat. Yes, peacekeeping plays a part but weapons familiarity is primary.

    Still, I have to say I was alarmed at the dog shooting debacle recently caught on video. Firing long guns in a suburb at a dog - and missing!!! - seemed incredibly dangerous as well as incompetent. I'd have thought an AOS officer could take out a dog with a Glock pretty quick.

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    Thing that pisses me off is the wanker that set all this off will be laughing at the cops and taking the piss from a comfy prison cell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weaver View Post
    My point is that unless they are AOS memebers they shouldn't have firearms, or be allowed to use them.
    Your taking entirely the wrong approach.

    What we need to do is take the cops batons, tasers, handcuffs etc off them, give them all guns, and give them carte blanche to kill anyone who resists arrest in any way shape or form.. I bet you crime will drop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    What absolute fuckin crap. The only blame here is with the asshole who started this whole situation and was firing shots at random in public including shooting another driver whos vehicle he was trying to hijack. Then he could have easily gone on to shoot you or one of your family. What happened to the young lad was tragic but was due to circumstances that were out of control. Your comment is not only ignorant but is racist as well and has been made before the facts of any enquiry have even been released.

    fuck off noddy...the cop's shot that driver of the truck too... racist...O poor white cop popped another motorist while looking though his scope... O white driver of truck lived...humm
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
    fuck off noddy...the cop's shot that driver of the truck too... racist...O poor white cop popped another motorist while looking though his scope... O white driver of truck lived...humm
    Your comment just confirms your arogance so fuck off yourself noddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weaver View Post
    My point is that unless they are AOS memebers they shouldn't have firearms, or be allowed to use them.
    That comment is just silly. On so many levels. Don't forget it was a couple of Constables armed with Glocks who took down Graeme Burton. If they had had to have called in the AOS, goodness knows how many more people may have been shot and killed -- including the Constables in question.

    One thing I learned many moons ago is that lead in the air does not necessarily follow the shortest distance between muzzle and whatever it finally hits. Let's presume that the Police investigate this thoroughly and that the facts are presented in the fullness of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    If it gets called an 'accidental' shot by the inevitable Police Complaints Authority hearing (in about 2012) then where was rule 2?
    Ricochet perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Police policy dictates training amounts, time spent on the ranges, is time no catching crims, and speeding motorists. So slow down, dont break the law, and Police will have more time for range practice... but then they wont need more ...EH !!!
    Are people really dumb enough to believe shit like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Ricochet perhaps?
    That's been hinted at hasn't it. Awful stuff whatever the full story

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIXONE View Post
    Don't generalise.I'm a kiwi and am proud of the fact that many kiwis have and are serving overseas!My Dad and most of his generation being amongst them.That's my opinion.
    sorry mate, fair call, but in my defence I assure you that you are one amoungst a very very small few.....so please understand when I say things like that- perhaps I should have written 99% of kiwis!

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    Actually Firefighter, i take offence at this post of yours. I usually enjoy your posts and comments you have to offer but this one is obviously aimed at all Kiwis.
    I take it that you are obviously an "Import" so therefore if you feel this way about us i would suggest that you pack up and fuck off back to where you came from.
    where would you like me to go? Back to St Mary's hospital (auckland), Tauranga (I spent my teenage years here), or out of Massey back to Whenuapai? (Obviously i'm a kiwi, umpteen generation, even with a bit of darkie bit mixed in from up north actually)

    Please refer to my above statement, my statements merely reflect my experience, and yes, a different line of wording would have been more appropriate- but I do find it difficult not to make statements like this after being assaulted by kiwis protesting the war when on leave during basic training (my crime was walking past the protest in uniform which I did'nt even know was on)
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