Boi racers in Christchurch cont'd

**peasea** · 8th February 2009, 16:36

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

I was sure someone had posted elsewhere regarding the suggestion of crushing these lovely wee chappies (and chapess's) vehicles but couldn't find it. So hence the new thread.

Was just reading the article about how the boy racers blame Bob Parker for inflaming the situation regarding their hobby of choice, and how this has been used as justification for attacking the police officer.

I laughed out loud at the line which said something like "it is unwise to push them as not every one is adult-minded". Hahahahaha, funniest bollocks I've read for a while. What a great message to put out there to all the rent-a-mob types: be as badass as you like and as long as you're bolshy enough no-one will stand up to you in case we make the situation worse.

Now, let me see if I can think of any groups in society who might like to take advantage of that mentality? Ooooh, have to think hard now.........

The police??

**noobi** · 8th February 2009, 18:12

I know for a fact that certain cars attract the police better than others
When dad and i were out driving the fast car, R32 GTR 600~ hp ohlins shocks, exhaust, tyres, wheels, brakes, cage, race seats and harnesses etc, we got pulled over for driving at 50 in a 50 zone, we know they didn't have the radar on because the radar detector didn't go mental
Conversation went something like

'Hello you driving a bit fast there sir?' Mr police
'I'm pretty sure its a 50 k zone!' dad
backtrack blah blah blah

The skyline is a cop magnet, they just see it as a boi racer car because its a skyline not knowing that its a rarity and worth about 8 times as much as a boi racer skyline, and they normally double take when they see dad in the seat and not some 16 yo on his restricted

And ftw Honda v-tecs are very competitive in the right hands, we were at the Ruakaka Street Sprint, wow legal street racing, and the same Honda v-tec driven by two different people took 2nd and 3rd, only losing by not much too our other skyline mate, who almost won super lap at puke

**Marmoot** · 8th February 2009, 19:35

From philosophical point of view, let's consider this:

The Police and Boyracers have been around for ages. They hate each other, and skirmishes happened every now and then.
Then one day the Boyracers decided to attack the Police. A shooting happened. All of a sudden the Police decided to retaliate back. Then the Boyracers threatened more actions, and Police threatened more actions.

Swap the Police and Boyracers in the sentences above with "Mongrel Mobs" and "Black Power" and you'll have a perfect gang vs gang story. Honest!

**gatch** · 8th February 2009, 20:24

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Swap the Police and Boyracers in the sentences above with "Mongrel Mobs" and "Black Power" and you'll have a perfect gang vs gang story. Honest!

that's just ridiculous, the cops are here to look after us, would you call the the mob if your car had been broken into, no, they'd fuck you up as soon as you opened the door, fool

**Sketchy_Racer** · 8th February 2009, 21:41

Originally Posted by Dragon

My car eats hondas for breakfast.

Main reason I don't go to track days is because of the cost of tyres.

So what is the point in owning a high performance vehicle if you are not going to use it where is should be used, at a track!! That's like me saying I have my Race GSXR600 with Kit ECU, full titanium system, Shaved head, Cams, Power Commander, full ohlins suspension Making a trillion more horsepower than a stock GSXR600 and then riding it round at 50KPH in the streets looking like a dickhead with my bike bouncing and farting all over the show because it is not being used in the environment it was designed to be used.

Originally Posted by Dragon

I havn't run one yet would love to see how fast it does it though. I drive my car hard but I bet there will be someone that can get more out of it then I can. Actually I need to clean it make it shiny again and I need to get the rims re power coated. ( never let your mate thats used to his 4wd drive your lowered car he trys to back over gutters scrape went my rims

)

So where do you drive it hard? On a public road I guess, because apparently you can't afford the tyres for track days. What gives you the qualifications to drive your car 'hard' on the road. Let me guess mum and dad taught you how to drive, you did the bullshit driving course where basically if you don't crash or run anyone over you will pass (or if your a chick have big knockers) But now you have a good car so you must be a weapon driver. I think not. Take it to the race track and I bet you $10 that a driver in a stock old school AE86 will run rings around you.

Now don't get me wrong, be passionate about your car it is your hobbie and just because you own a modified Japanese car doesn't mean you are a 'boy racer', but use it in the right places. I love my bikes and if I had the money I would own a very very modified over powered bike for the road, but I can guarantee you that it would see the track more often than the road.

Originally Posted by Marmoot

From philosophical point of view, let's consider this:

The Police and Boyracers have been around for ages. They hate each other, and skirmishes happened every now and then.
Then one day the Boyracers decided to attack the Police. A shooting happened. All of a sudden the Police decided to retaliate back. Then the Boyracers threatened more actions, and Police threatened more actions.

Swap the Police and Boyracers in the sentences above with "Mongrel Mobs" and "Black Power" and you'll have a perfect gang vs gang story. Honest!

That is one of the worst comparisons I have ever read. Relating the people that are out there to protect us and keep the communities safe with those that are out there to rebel and create havoc. You sound like a good dude, but that's pretty shocking!

**JMemonic** · 9th February 2009, 06:06

Originally Posted by noobi

I know for a fact that certain cars attract the police better than others
When dad and i were out driving the fast car, R32 GTR 600~ hp ohlins shocks, exhaust, tyres, wheels, brakes, cage, race seats and harnesses etc, we got pulled over for driving at 50 in a 50 zone, we know they didn't have the radar on because the radar detector didn't go mental
Conversation went something like

The skyline is a cop magnet,

The R32 is the cop magnet because some many "car enthusiasts" own them, and spend fortunes on them to get the weight down and the bhp up for what? The speed limit is 100Kph standard they are capable of over that. Why do you need a car that is non functional in the sense there is more power than you can ever use, its not like its a tow car or on a race track its the public street ffs. Skylines the clitoris of cars.

**Marmoot** · 9th February 2009, 09:32

Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer

That is one of the worst comparisons I have ever read. Relating the people that are out there to protect us and keep the communities safe with those that are out there to rebel and create havoc.

I'm not comparing the police and the mob from that perspective. Read again my post. I'm just highlighting the "mob mentality" adopted by our dear lawmakers and government officials. Retaliatory police action. Pah! Call that mature.

**GaZBur** · 9th February 2009, 09:43

Originally Posted by Marmoot

I'm not comparing the police and the mob from that perspective. Read again my post. I'm just highlighting the "mob mentality" adopted by our dear lawmakers and government officials. Retaliatory police action. Pah! Call that mature.

The other option to retaliatory is to roll over and let them do what they like when they like i suppose.
It came as a shock to innocent (drunk and stupid) students in Dunedin that although they didn't throw bottles at police themselves they were batten charged because they were in the same group. If you are in a group that corners a policeman in the execution of his duties - get out if you don't want "retaliatory action" taken against you. It would seem obvious that this is going to escalate now, I just hope no innocent heads get busted on either side before it calms down again.

**Marmoot** · 9th February 2009, 10:01

Originally Posted by GaZBur

The other option to retaliatory is to roll over and let them do what they like when they like i suppose.

The other option is consistent law enforcement. The law should apply from day one until it is changed, not just when the police "feels like it".

**GaZBur** · 9th February 2009, 10:51

Originally Posted by Marmoot

The other option is consistent law enforcement. The law should apply from day one until it is changed, not just when the police "feels like it".

True. New laws are not required as this surely is a sitter for the Unlawfull assebly act.

An unlawful assembly is . . .

“. . . an assembly of three or more persons who, with intent to carry out a common purpose, assemble in such a manner, or so conduct themselves when assembled as to cause persons in the neighbourhood to fear, on reasonable grounds, (that violence against person or property) will occur”.

http://www.netlaw.co.nz/crime.cfm?PageID=482

**Indiana_Jones** · 9th February 2009, 12:12

I've read a few posts on the herald 'your views' section.

A few of the boy racers are saying pretty much 'look what we did to one cop for trying to break us up. Try and crush our cars and it won't be an air rifle that shoots next time...'

So they're turning to terrorism to get what want....

-Indy

**imdying** · 9th February 2009, 12:59

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I've read a few posts on the herald 'your views' section.

Ya know, someone with an interest in causing mischief could have a lot of fun on there, fanning the flames

**Indiana_Jones** · 9th February 2009, 14:11

Originally Posted by imdying

Ya know, someone with an interest in causing mischief could have a lot of fun on there, fanning the flames

Hey man, it's true, it's on the interwebZ!

-Indy

**peasea** · 9th February 2009, 14:19

Originally Posted by gatch

that's just ridiculous, the cops are here to look after us, would you call the the mob if your car had been broken into, no, they'd fuck you up as soon as you opened the door, fool

The only reason I'd call the cops for a burg' is get the paperwork sorted for the insurance company. They really don't give a shit about your goods getting ripped off, they just roll their eyes and go through the motions. The chances of catching the scumbags that rip off cars and houses (or bikes for that matter) is pretty slim. Seriously, they go to far more trouble persuing a speeding ticket fine coz there's a buck at the end of the exercise.