Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

[Finn]

The real problem with high profile murder cases is that when it comes to experts and differing opinions on evidence the jury in most cases will believe the prosecutions. While there are exceptions to this there are far too many guilty verdicts that later on appear to be doubtfull.

That's because by the time the accused is on the stand, there's normally a very good reason for it.

[idb]

I read the article and if I'd had that information presented to me on a jury there would certainly have been doubt in my mind.

Wasn't he identified by a prostitute as being in Petone, or is my memory faulty on that?

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's because by the time the accused is on the stand, there's normally a very good reason for it.

Uh, isnt the point of the trial to test whether or not the reasons are good?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh, and quite often the accused person is in fact guilty, as it turns out.

Its not like I am some wide eyed idealist fresh out of Lor school, brimming with the milk of human kindness and a crusading desire to help the oppressed. Oh no, I am a cynical grumpy middle aged man just trying to eke out a living until I move into the rest home where I can spend my last days raving about how quick I used to be on a motorbike and how the yoof of today have no respect, until the colostomy bag fills up and I drown, or I run out of cat food and starve to death.

[idb]

.....I am a cynical grumpy middle aged man just trying to eke out a living until I move into the rest home where I can spend my last days raving about how quick I used to be on a motorbike and how the yoof of today have no respect, until the colostomy bag fills up and I drown, or I run out of cat food and starve to death.

We should get together and swap notes!

[Maha]

Yeah, that's a tempting but hollow call, which HDC has answered eloquently above.

I am quilty as charged.

[Owl]

As soon as I saw his "performance" at the funerals on the news, I knew it was him....

There is distraught, and then there was Lundy's "faking it..." There really is a difference.

I guess his stage acting never paid off!

[Forest]

The North & South article was very well researched.

The biggest surprise to me was the doubt which has now been placed on the forensic evidence.

[Owl]

Wasn't the suspected murder weapon a hatchet or something?

It was an item Lundy apparently denied ever owning, yet I've spoken to someone that know's for a fact that he owned the item in question! I've just got a shit memory and can't remember exactly what it was.

[mikeey01]

In one breath I hear many of you say “Journalists, don't believe / trust a word they say” yet what appears in here seems to be the complete opposite!

Come on we all know journalists will build an article, feature or programme around something, then construct this report, put it out to the public for entertainment or news. Many a media article has developed into healthy discussions, such as this thread. (that's what they are for)

Knowing what modern media is like I'm surprised so many people actually believe whats been written in this N&S article.
Did the journo in this article cover all view points? Cover everything in this case that is fact, allegations made, prime witness statements (both crown and defense) all evidence produced and a complete picture of the case, both for the crown and defence? Does the article appear to be partially biased with lacking information in certain areas or only enough for you to have some doubt?

Modern media have a huge responsibility and un-fortunately a massive influence on the general public, yet they use this in the weirdest way and on some of the stupidest stuff!

You can guarantee tomorrow nights news will be much like tonights, a little bit of shock and ore, some bad stuff, some more bad stuff that's happened somewhere else around the world, followed by some other bad stuff locally, near the end is a feel good story and the weather. Same shit different day.

As for Mark Lundy, he has been judged by a jury of his pairs and found guilty based on the facts and evidence presented, the case was argued and an answer we all know. What we don't know is... was all or some of the evidence presented, time will tell.

[Patrick]

That's an interesting read - whether or not he is guilty, reading through that website indicates that his lawyer should certainly have been able to introduce reasonable doubt.

He did... regularly... Cross contamination of exhibits, planting of the brain matter, Police corruption, you name it... the jury didn't buy it.

[spudchucka]

Wasn't the suspected murder weapon a hatchet or something?

It was an item Lundy apparently denied ever owning, yet I've spoken to someone that know's for a fact that he owned the item in question! I've just got a shit memory and can't remember exactly what it was.

The weapon was never found but the wounds indicated that it was a tomahawk or small axe.

Lundy painted all his tools with a blue and orange paint combination. Guess what was found in all the wounds..... blue and orange paint flakes. The paint flakes were matched to the paint on the other tools in his shed and also to the pots of blue and orange paint that were still in his garage.

[ElCoyote]

but as someone said was he really in petone ...

It appears that his penis was but how reliable is a ho. Regardless, I regularly traveled that route and he could not have done it in the time he was alleged to have done should he actually have been bonking firstly. His phone may have been there but was his body. Still too much doubt in my mind and too many alternatives that may not have been investigated in depth.

[pete376403]

He was defended by Mike Behrens, who was a very high profile defence lawyer in Palmerston North at the time. He is now a district court judge.

Wonder if he would have become a d/c judge if he had destroyed the crowns case?
Not suggesting for a minute that he got the job as payment for services rendered or anything. Or that the justice dept likes compliant judges. Or nything like that.

[spudchucka]

Wonder if he would have become a d/c judge if he had destroyed the crowns case?
Not suggesting for a minute that he got the job as payment for services rendered or anything. Or that the justice dept likes compliant judges. Or nything like that.

Why not suggest it, this site often seems to be the home of lame conspiracy theories.