Give Way rule

**YAMASAKI** · 19th February 2009, 13:01

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

dont worry pixc... i was the same. still am in certain cases. seems to though, that people exiting seem to think the vehicle on the road has right of way as well though. so maybe changing it would be a good idea.

so you're wanting to make what is a VERY simple rule - GIVE WAY TO YOUR RIGHT WHEN TURNING - confusing by adding exceptions??? just because some people haven't bothered to read the road code.

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 13:19

Originally Posted by YAMASAKI

so you're wanting to make what is a VERY simple rule - GIVE WAY TO YOUR RIGHT WHEN TURNING - confusing by adding exceptions??? just because some people haven't bothered to read the road code.

well why put give way/stop signs on the exit out to the contrary? Road vs road junction I am confident/correct and have no worries. Road vs driveways is were I have it wrong

**YAMASAKI** · 19th February 2009, 13:27

Road vs driveway, the rule is the same... where traffic flow problems arise road planners put in compulsory stops and give ways, same rules apply for adding them to driveways/supermarkets/shopping mall exits and entrys.

**slofox** · 19th February 2009, 13:31

Originally Posted by pixc

my common sense tells me person on the road goes in first. I have assummed for years that because vehicle turning in , she/he should go first to get out of flow of traffic. Could be holding up traffic behind him/her. Person coming out of driveway isnt in the flow of traffic.

Sensible - I think exactly as you do. For the same reasons.

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 13:34

Originally Posted by YAMASAKI

Road vs driveway, the rule is the same... where traffic flow problems arise road planners put in compulsory stops and give ways, same rules apply for adding them to driveways/supermarkets/shopping mall exits and entrys.

So..Joe Blogs is driving/riding along, accidentally leaving indicator on, and good ole nana pulls out of supermarket and they collide.

Na..dont like it. Theres no common sense to this rule. Driveway shud giveway to road. But I will override my faulty common sense chip and ammend the errors of my way. Im surprised I have never had an issue on the road before concerning this.

**Max Preload** · 19th February 2009, 13:35

Originally Posted by pixc

Isn't a supermarket entrance a driveway?

No. A public entrance is a road.

Originally Posted by Starky307

The whole right hand give way rule is a major stuff up and one that is hardly ever followed by vehicle users.

It is a dangerous rule that the government are aware off but are to frightened to fix.

Not at all. The problem is drivers not obeying the rule because successive generations are taught the same bad habits by their parents.

**Starky307** · 19th February 2009, 13:44

Originally Posted by Max Preload

No. A public entrance is a road.

Not at all. The problem is drivers not obeying the rule because successive generations are taught the same bad habits by their parents.

I agree but if the masses abide by common sense which is the "main road" user has right of way over someone exiting an uncotrolled road or carpark then what do you do, pull out from the car park and get sideswipped?

The uncontrolled intersection right hand turn rule is dangerous in my mind.

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 13:48

Originally Posted by Max Preload

No. A public entrance is a road.

OK. It must be a grey area for others too. Ive never had a near miss etc. So..either people have same thoughts as me, people assume others have same thought as me...or I just don't do enough shopping.

**davebullet** · 19th February 2009, 13:52

Originally Posted by merv

Agreed, and I get annoyed with all the dickheads that try and drive around me when they should be giving way to their right.

I agree with Merv.

The give way to your right rule still applies at a supermarket entrance. That is, I am leaving the supermarket turning right, and you are to my left trying to turn right into the supermarket. You give way to me.

Most drivers observed this rule when I began driving 20+ years ago... now it is the other way around.

More should be done to test this rule in my opinion, since more drivers than not break the rule.

**davebullet** · 19th February 2009, 13:54

Give way to your right is an excellent rule... you can apply it in any situation if you've forgotten / not clear and it works well. Think about it - you have 1 second to decide... you can execute this rule very quickly.

I have far more near misses now than I ever had... not because roads are busier, but driving is worse and people do not know their road code.

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 13:58

Originally Posted by davebullet

Give way to your right is an excellent rule... you can apply it in any situation if you've forgotten / not clear and it works well. Think about it - you have 1 second to decide... you can execute this rule very quickly.

I have far more near misses now than I ever had... not because roads are busier, but driving is worse and people do not know their road code.

I agree with you. I think its good. Its not the 'giveway' rule in general. Its driveway vs road that I buggered up.

**martybabe** · 19th February 2009, 14:59

Shed some light on this one then guys please. There is a T junction by me, I'm going to turn right on to the main highway. traffic coming from the left wishing to turn into my road have a filter lane with a give way line at the end.

So you're saying every vehicle turning right off the main drag into my road should give way to me,that's about 1 vehicle every three seconds in rush hour, quite frankly, I've never seen it done and if I tried to pull out I would be Killed. Is this a case of people not reading/understanding the code or do they all think it's a stupid rule and ignore it?.

It's hardly surprising that so many people are oblivious of this rule if nobody abides by it in practice.