Wednesday Evening Cruises 2008-09

[gammaguy]

from what i hear,that could describe your bucket

[Dave-]

hey.. I heard there were some bad people on the ride just gone, and they have been hit with p/m's telling them off, thats terable and whats worse they were a senior riders... shame on you girls and boys

I'd fucking say, gave them a right bollocking I did.

Helen and Lil'M broke loose at a prearranged stop accelerating away in a whellied cloud of smoke, they knew they should wait for the TEC and not pass me (the leader) and as such we're sent the following PM.

ok what's up?

why the short stop?

Lemans and The hornet were also involved and will be receiving similar punishment.

what's worse is they did this in front of vulnerable impressionable new riders who followed suit.

they then sped at maniacal speeds to lyttelton where they blatantly flouted another stop, this time skipping the whole ordeal completely, then stopped at a non approved stop on the other side of evans pass.

such behavior is unacceptable on my ride as such the members have been asked to touch their toes, thanks for the suggestion steve, we'll be adding scrutineering to the BK car park schedule by the end of feb.

if I ever see anyone having fun on this ride again...fuckin' better watch out.

seriously though I thought they didn't like my leading and took off, wanted to get some feedback, hence the PM.

you're not the only one who can troll D :P

Duvachelles this Wednesday!

[Spuds1234]

you're not the only one who can troll

Whats trolling?

[laRIKin]

I'd fucking say, gave them a right bollocking I did.

Helen and Lil'M broke loose at a prearranged stop accelerating away in a whellied cloud of smoke, they knew they should wait for the TEC and not pass me (the leader) and as such we're sent the following PM.



Lemans and The hornet were also involved and will be receiving similar punishment.

BUT, BUT, I was just following those Bad Hairy Arsed Bikers Birds and thought that If I did not leave when they did, those two bad girls would give me the bash.

To be honest I did meet up (to catch up with people I had not seen of awhile) with the group at the start and then did my own ride to de-stress over the Summit Road.

As I do not like ride in unknown groups since I got rear ended on a group ride (Ambo fund raiser).

I did do a U turn and rode TEC to the Wheatsheaf to see how the group rode and only stopped to help out a fellow rider that was having trouble with his lines though corners or I would not of stopped.

When the girls started their bike a lot of people did and got a miss que to leave.
Shit happens.

I did the last (middle) part of the ride so that as it turned out two guys could follow me before heading off again to do my own ride again.

By the way the guys lines seemed to have got better and with that their speed got better as well.
Well done boys.

And El Stevo the point of a leader is to ride at a pace keep the group together.
And you have done this on a Sunday ride where you lead and did not go over 100kph once.

If you have the fastest guy up front, riding fast, the group will split.
This WNR as far as I know is for learners to learn to ride better or a quite Cruise for the rest so the group wants to ride together.

And that is why your group leave first, so you can do what the hell you like.
You do not like it, don't do the ride.

It is strange to me is, if you think it is so GAY to ride like that you have to meet and start your ride from the same place.
Now that is GAY.

[Transalper]

....but the point I'm making is the babying of others and all the unnessesary rules. People are individules, most don't respond well to being bossed around by a self appointed 'king' and the ones that do like being bossed around will grow out of it when their spine devolopes.

And those people have been asked to piss of early so that some of us who do occasionally like to ride as a group can do our own thing with out getting so cut up by the rest, or getting in your way.
No one is trying to stop you 'not ride as a group' so please don't mess up the organising of others who do want to ride as a group.
No lack of spine involved, don't know where you get that shit from.

Ditch the egos, ditch the 'I'm more experienced' attude that some riders have, don't play riding instructer if it's not asked for and don't play the big man. (Not you Phoenix - I mean in general) How many years you have been riding for or how many posts you have on KB play NO part in how skilled a rider is.

Go out, ride ya bikes, leave the bullshit behind and everyone has a good time...

I believe thats 4 cents now

Forget the playing instructor issues, some new and old riders just want to ride as a group from time to time.
Group riding - riding in a group, not leaving together as a group and arriving spread out over the next half hour at the one destination... if you haven't got lost because you couldn't keep up and no one slowed to show you the way or crashed out because you were drawn past your ability trying to keep up so as not to get lost because you're new and have know idea where you are.
Don't think egos have anything to do with group riding, more likely they prevent it.

Perhaps those who took off early from the regroup should have announced their intent to break away so those who followed knew what was going on, that they were leaving the 'group ride' to do their own thing.

Apologies for only quoting El Stevo. It's all just generalization anyway ain't it.
I'll call this my 1c worth, it's only half a mind, I feel this and the rest will just fall on deaf ears, or be brushed off by narrow minded people anyway so I'll just crawl quietly back into my hole now.
I am kind of missing these rides, but spending my time wisely doing OT at work to pay for engine rebuild.

[El Stevo]

I am so GAY to ride like that and I like boys
Now that is GAY.

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[dangerous]

That's my 2 cents worth, like it or not!

0ne vote for like it

I'd fucking say, gave them a right bollocking I did.
you're not the only one who can troll D :P

hahaha, glad ya saw it that way, but mor taking the piss than a troll.

You're a 'senior' dangerous, or is that OAP?

OAP?? does that stand for Old And Pongy?

OHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[3umph]

Maybe you need a 2 group system for riding...

you obviously have new and experienced riders in the group... maybe newer people wanting experience have the leader and tail end Charlie to keep checks on them and for guidance and the more experienced lead off and ride in a group at a pace that is good for them... destination the same even if time frame is different for the groups... as the less experienced/conferdant ones move up once they feel they can... lead group could run a leader and tail end charlie as well...

just a suggestion... I know that it would piss me off sitting behind some one putting around the hills

[Lil'M]

That's my 2 cents worth, like it or not!

Agreed, couldnt' have said it better myself

[Lil'M]

BUT, BUT, I was just following those Bad Hairy Arsed Bikers Birds and thought that If I did not leave when they did, those two bad girls would give me the bash.

Yea, you know it!! you just wait...

tehehehe

[fireliv]

Making???!!!

I think you will find that the ones that go to Duvoucelles do so from their own choice, do they really pick you as being ones to follow orders?

I don't care how safe you guys think it makes it, follow the leader is GAY! If people wanna boogie and can pass safely I don't see the problem. It's a ride not a funeral procession. If new riders are led to believe that this is normal they will be bored off riding pretty fast.

Food for thought: if the leader doesn't like getting passed then get a faster leader. It's hardly rocket science...

It really eats me how some self appointed 'heros' wanna play the big man and feel they can be in charge of other people, but not as much as the lemmings that let themselves be bossed around. You shouldn't need rules only a little common sense and a little consideration. Whats next? Reg and WOF checks before each ride to make sure the bikes are safe? - Give people some credit.

If being passed offends any of you - FFS get over it! It's gonna happen from time to time be it on bikes or in cars, it's not done to deliberatly insult you and if you think that way you should see a shrink!

That's my 2 cents worth, like it or not!

Steve I dont have a problem with you but I take real offense to this. We have already discussed why the duvochelle crew go seperate, as we know you can look after yourself. But from my point of view you guys are not on the wed ride, you just happen to be on a ride.

Personally I find it weird as you were leader a couple of times last season of WNR and you never complained about it to me.

I dont see myself as bossing others around. If people dont like it dont come. This ride was started as an organised ride, and just like any organised ride that anyone has been on it has rules. Those self appointed "Heros" are trying to make it safer for everyone, and I am trying to keep it that way as I have seen the legal ramifications a death on a percieved organised ride can mean.

Basicly steve keep doing what you are doing and leave us to do this how it is seen the safest.

[dangerous]

I dont see myself as bossing others around. If people dont like it dont come.

This ride was started as an organised ride, and just like any organised ride that anyone has been on it has rules..

That comment alone is very 'bossy'

The ride started of as a slow ride, but as shit happens ya get dick heads fuking it up.
It has turned into more of a 'learners' ride now and this is a good thing aye. such a group is needed in some cases. However you and other suposed leaders need to rememberyou to are learners and again this is a good thing as you all are in the same boat.
I think you DO need to rename the ride to being a learners group... so as to keep faster beter riders out and NOT have bad people like LilM and HOT doing wrong.

The WNR can be made a very good steeping stone for 'new' learners remember we are always all learning every time we ride, but your group can be a good introduction... keep it up but under your "RULES" expect some flack.

BTW I am often on and sorting organised rides and we NEVER have rules, so why do you need them if the point is made its a newbee group?

[fireliv]

Well at this stage nothing is changing. So say what you like. For fear of repeating myself DONT LIKE HOW ITS BEING RUN DONT COME. There are plenty of people who are happy with it esp now the changes have happened and thats going to continue.

I might be a "learner" rider (everyone still has something to learn right? U included), and I dont claim to be anything other than that. However its just damned if we do, damned if we dont.

As for the name I dont care. Lots of people come along who are not newbies. So what does it matter?

As for people riding ahead of the leader, as long as the leader knows then it shouldnt be a prob. However if they bin it then they shouldnt bother posting it on this thread, or saying they were on the WNR as they left the group.

We got bitched about when there wasnt solid organising and people didn't know where where we were going, and people like you dangerous said that the ride was unsafe. We implement some structure and now you say its to ridged. Well don't come. Simple as that. You just brought this up to shit stir, you have had your fun, so just leave it at that.

[3umph]

Maybe you need a 2 group system for riding...

you obviously have new and experienced riders in the group... maybe newer people wanting experience have the leader and tail end Charlie to keep checks on them and for guidance and the more experienced lead off and ride in a group at a pace that is good for them... destination the same even if time frame is different for the groups... as the less experienced/conferdant ones move up once they feel they can... lead group could run a leader and tail end charlie as well...

just a suggestion... I know that it would piss me off sitting behind some one putting around the hills

just a suggestion I put up earlier

[dangerous]

You just brought this up to shit stir, you have had your fun, so just leave it at that.

You just dont get it do ya... I dont know what ya problem is... re read my last post, I AM OFFERING HELP ideas to improve more, bloody hell girl I said twice what ya doing is a GOOD thing... do you not get that?