Round 5 of NZ Superbikes may be canned?

[svr]

$250 for two days on the track is still more than say $170 as it normally would be ($85 per day).

So? - thats only another $80 total to do a national round! And if you work it out entry fees represent a very small part of the racing budget.

This discussion was done to death before the manfield round - Basically it comes back to the reality that racers would rather get top 3 or 5 club racing in the winter (brrr) than get their arses kicked at the nats.
Lets just fess up aye?

[svs]

I agree Burtt Badger but my point was not that the club should 'risk' this cost rather that it appears the racers who enter are wearing the brunt of that initial cost/risk. I'm really not sure if I'm correct in this its just a point as to why riders are thinking twice about entering...its simply too much money for most of us. Like I said...If I enter round 5 I'm pretty certain it will be a bill in excess of $1000 for me....that's a lot for one weekend wouldn't you say?

Go for it - it's only money

Bike racing is still a cheap form of motorsport and NZ is still cheaper than the rest of the civilised world. (last i looked it was about NZ$350 to enter a club round (2 8 lap races) in the UK)

[Biggles08]

So? - thats only another $80 total to do a national round! And if you work it out entry fees represent a very small part of the racing budget.

This discussion was done to death before the manfield round - Basically it comes back to the reality that racers would rather get top 3 or 5 club racing in the winter (brrr) than get their arses kicked at the nats.
Lets just fess up aye?

Bollocks svr....I entered Manfield and was very happy to have my arse spanked by the very best of the best....and loved every second of it (hmmmm...maybe i should buy a honda). If i do not enter Puke round it will solely be because I cannot afford it. The difference is club rounds generally are not a whole weekend of racing and as such work out cheaper on the whole....even if percentage wise there is bugger all difference in time on track vs dollars spent.

[Biggles08]

Go for it - it's only money

Bike racing is still a cheap form of motorsport and NZ is still cheaper than the rest of the civilised world. (last i looked it was about NZ$350 to enter a club round (2 8 lap races) in the UK)

you are right Phil and I am working on trying to find some support so i can... BUT simply put, If i don't get any I won't be entering cause my bank would be very upset when I can't pay my mortgage this month.

[Tony.OK]

very happy to have my arse spanked by the very best of the best....and loved every second of it (hmmmm...maybe i should buy a honda). .

........................oh come to think of it...you're right

[Biggles08]

........................oh come to think of it...you're right

well we do like the same rubber T!!!

[FROSTY:Me]

Heres the rub guys n gals. You lot are all saying MNZ this and MNZ that.
YES MNZ are indeed the NAME on the event

BUT every national round has to be funded by the individual club that organises the event.
So Vic club had to fund the Manfeild round and AMCC has to fund the Pukie round.
Now last time I looked To rent pukie was $4000 a DAY for a casual hire. -three day rental will cost $12000
add to that that for a race meeting you need 2 ambo's on the track at $650 A DAY each. (for a national meeting you need two medico's per unit and they must be lsu's )
Add to that about $5000 a day in other costs -RT's ,feeding marshalls fuel for recovery vehicles etc and you are up to a cost to the club of not far off $50000 --and Im being conservative
now you work that out --$50000 divided by WHAT covers the barest minimum costs then extract the $30 per transponder per day that mr gibbs charges.
AMCC although it is a club still has opperating costs in itself -so cannot afford year after year to make literally thousands of dollars loss for an event.
Thats the reality of the situation as I recall it

Incidently I recall 2 years ago mr Costello all but begging the powers that be to run the nats north TO south - AMCC has the highest cost to run a meeting yet also gets lumbered with being the poor sod doing tail end charlie year after year.
People Like codyoldracer why should they bother doing the last round when hes won the title already?? (and Im not suggesting he would skip it )
If you want to keep the nationals alive and well in NZ Id suggest one change should be as a minimum running ALTERNATELY North to south then south to north year about. Let pukie have one year with decent atendance then the next they might afford to take on the chin.

These are comments made off my own back working from a piss poor Frosty memory of $ numbers

[Brian d marge]

and you are up to a cost to the club of not far off $20000 --and Im being conservative

so thats 700 people at around 30 dollars each.... Wots there to keep the missus quiet and the kids happy..............

Paeroa , all the shops were open ...and I could get to a pub ..and then lie in the sun ,,,great day ( least thery were when I last went

oh and the grids were full ...and I got my share of classic bikes , and Motards ,,,,

Happily pay 30 dollars for some sideways action ........ ( dunno what the missus got up to ... she came back ....)

Stephen

[Kickaha]

Incidently I recall 2 years ago mr Costello all but begging the powers that be to run the nats north TO south - AMCC has the highest cost to run a meeting yet also gets lumbered with being the poor sod doing tail end charlie year after year.

What difference does it make, the cost will still be the same

It might be more to do with track availibilty than anything else

[Robert Taylor]

What difference does it make, the cost will still be the same

It might be more to do with track availibilty than anything else

Indeed , theres a lot of car stuff happening and undoubtedly motorcycle racing plays second fiddle because it pays way less money

[FROSTY:Me]

The thing is you get bigger attendance at the beginning of the season than at the end.

[prettybillie]

Oooh yea,Now you got me.G strings compulsory

I'm in where do I sign up and who is going to pay my fees????

[DEATH_INC.]

How much cheaper do you suppose its going too be to race a 5yr old 600???

Lots if you already have one....

[prettybillie]

Has anyone seen or heard any form of advertising for any of the National round's this year?

Not a thing! This reiterates Biggles question about what are the extreme extra costs covering......

[Billy]

Lots if you already have one....

So if youve got 1 why arent you racing it??? Dave Manuell has been doing the National rounds on a K2 GSXR and having a ball