Would you ride with coppers?

**scumdog** · 27th February 2009, 21:26

(Said rather dryly..) I'm not sure I'd want to ride with anybody who has an issue with riding with cops anyway...maybe I could open a few minds hey, sometimes I feel there's no hope.

**Brett** · 27th February 2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by Katman

Where do we draw the line? Is it ok for a police officer to drink and drive/ride, as long as they aren't caught?

Hypocrisy? Of course it's hypocrisy.

The policeman who rides, outside of working conditions, at a speed at which he would ticket someone else is displaying hypocrisy. The police officer who chooses to let them off because that person is a policeman is displaying hypocrisy. The police officer pulled over for speeding is guilty of double hypocrisy for not insisting that the ticket is issued.

I don't know Katman, that seems to be a very hard line approach to take. (not with regards to drink driving, but yes, to speed.)
I think that the main thing is that there is a time and a place for everything. A cop who is off duty and having some fun on his bike would know this, and thus would not be likley to be caught. He would not be doing 200kph down the main highway. Cops are there to administer the law, doesn't mean that they always agree with it in every circumstance.

**Mikkel** · 27th February 2009, 21:36

Originally Posted by jeffs

Should a cop be allowed to speed and get away with it. We all know the answer is NO.
Should a non-cop be allowed to speed and get away with it. We all know the answer is still NO.

Rubbish!

It's eating the bullshit raw like this that really gets me. Have we turned into fucking sheep?

1. What is the purpose of the law?
2. What is the purpose of speedlimits?

Answer those two questions truthfully and I am sure that the answers are not:

1. To make sure everybody conform... or else!
2. To make money for the police and make life less fun for a lot of people.

It should be something along these lines:

1. To protect the public from any wrong doing from other individuals, organisations and the government. To be able to punish the wicked who cause hurt onto others.
2. To be able to prosecute people who operate a motorvehicle in an unsafe manner. (And anyone who says all speeding (as defined by the law) is unsafe is a bloody idiot.)

It is our duty to question authority. We're lucky enough to live in on of few countries where people in the past have fought long and hard to have that right. If you just sit down and eat it all raw that freedom won't last long.

A good police officer applies the law where necessary - not whenever the opportunity arises. An officer behaving in that manner will have no trouble retaining the respect of the public - on the other hand, someone who throw their weight around and use their authority in a questionable manner is doing themselves, the force and by extension society a big disservice.

**Boob Johnson** · 27th February 2009, 21:39

Originally Posted by Katman

I have never said I haven't.

What I have said is that I'm not the one who is issuing tickets to people for doing something that I may have been guilty of.

No but you are the self imposed poster boy for all things holy on two wheels, whats the difference?

Originally Posted by Katman

Dunno Boob.

Didn't think so

Would you like a warm cup of cocoa to go with your side of hypocrisy

**Boob Johnson** · 27th February 2009, 21:44

Originally Posted by Mikkel

It's eating the bullshit raw like this that really gets me. Have we turned into fucking sheep?

Katman

Eating bullshit raw since................aaaaaaaaages ago

**Brett** · 27th February 2009, 21:45

Another thing, it is worth remembering that a cop (other than traffic cops) do a lot more than just traffic, and generally HATE the traffic stuff themselves. I mean, who really wants to go out being all anal giving out tickets to people? (personally I would love to sit at certain traffic lights and nail every red light runner, but that is my little pet hate).

Cops can be Search & rescue, Dive Squad, Dog Squad, Armed Offender Squad, Detectives detecting shit, crime scene investigators etc...not just funny little men and women in blue who nail us for traffic infringements. Some of them do an awesome job of helping other people for shit pay.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th February 2009, 21:45

Originally Posted by scumdog

... sometimes I feel there's no hope.

there's hope????

**scumdog** · 27th February 2009, 21:48

Will somebody please think of the children.

And of the cops that might have to ride with you ...

**Dean** · 27th February 2009, 21:50

Originally Posted by Katman

Maybe that you suck cock and I don't.

Originally Posted by Boob Johnson

Would you like a warm cup of cocoa to go with your side of hypocrisy

Originally Posted by Katman

Would you like a mouthful of warm tartare sauce?

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th February 2009, 21:51

Originally Posted by Brett

Cops can be Search & rescue, Dive Squad, Dog Squad, Armed Offender Squad, Detectives detecting shit, crime scene investigators etc...not just funny little men and women in blue who nail us for traffic infringements.

Not forgetting they also scrape up the carnage off the roads as well, which is one thing I fricken well hated when I was a volunteer Firefighter in a hick country town back a few yews ago. Once you see a few accidents I can tell you it makes you think...

**Boob Johnson** · 27th February 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by Katman

Would you like a mouthful of warm tartare sauce?

Are you going answer the question? Or have you shown yourself to be exactly what you are?

**Boob Johnson** · 27th February 2009, 21:59

Originally Posted by youngbiker16

lol he is fun to play with isn't he

**Mikkel** · 27th February 2009, 21:59

Originally Posted by Boob Johnson

Katman

Eating bullshit raw since................aaaaaaaaages ago

Let's be fair though. I can not recall seeing Katman say "Don't break the law." Only that if the majority of bikers ride like idiots it's no wonder that the majority perceive bikers as idiots, and that no one is going to take you serious, nor will you ever learn, if you don't face up and take responsibility for your own actions instead of just shifting the blame and making poor excuses. Nothing wrong with saying that, nothing hypocritical about it... neiter is there anything profound in it, just logic 101. The real shame is that it sometimes seems he missed logic 102 - If I talk down to people and behave like an arse my message will most likely not be heeded. (And to be fair again, sadly he's not the only one doing that...

I can however take solace in the fact that I have no message.

)

Looking at my user CP it seems you two guys at least agree upon something - pretty much exactly the same message from both of you to my previous post.

Now shake hands and make up. Or if you wanna continue the tryst there's a thread in PD entitled Sex which sadly lies dormant.