Biker sent to jail for speeding

[cc rider]

looks like he may get bitch slapped twice - once at home & once in the house
Memories of similar shit comes to mind, but with hormonal young men - I love the speed

[DELLORTO]

i did 90km/h on a 40km/h road once........cop didnt seem to care for some reason......the crazy thing was i was on a pocket bike.....

[Blackshear]

i did 90km/h on a 40km/h road once........cop didnt seem to care for some reason......the crazy thing was i was on a pocket bike.....

Mighta figured natural selection was something he didn't wanna fuck with

[MarkH]

Just the same as any other pillion, all morals aside.
You don't get sent to jail for doing 120mph with your mate on the back, what's the goddamn difference?

Maybe there is some expectation that a parent should look out for the welfare of their children and putting your kid on the back of your bike without good protective gear then riding at over twice the speed limit is not on. Whereas if your mate wants to trust you and is willing to risk his life on the back of your bike then that is his decision, he is an adult and he can decide for himself whether to risk his life or not.

[McJim]

Looked pretty sedate to me. Wide roads. Good surface. Straight line.

[Blackshear]

Maybe there is some expectation that a parent should look out for the welfare of their children and putting your kid on the back of your bike without good protective gear then riding at over twice the speed limit is not on. Whereas if your mate wants to trust you and is willing to risk his life on the back of your bike then that is his decision, he is an adult and he can decide for himself whether to risk his life or not.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you. Had the man been ripping up the back wheel into corners with his mildly protected son on the back, then hell yeah send that mans ass to jain to think about his actions.
It just seemed like an awful lot of kerfuffel for what little happened.
Just looking at it from a law side, not a moral side.

[Boob Johnson]

Just the same as any other pillion, all morals aside.
You don't get sent to jail for doing 120mph with your mate on the back

Exactly! What a crock. The road was wet which certainly wasn't a bright idea to go at that speed & certainly with a pillion. He deserves an awfully big ticket & loss of license but 6 months jail??? Get real!


I bet he was just trying to show the lad a good time, I know my dad was extra nice at times when my parents split as a youngster, only natural, just a bad judgment call on his part, poor bugger.


You can hear the ex wife from here

[scumdog]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5831366.ece

Well - he was doing 122 Miles per hour and had a 14 yo kid on the back.

bugger!

Can't be effed reading that item but I was thinking "Has he never been in trouble before??"

Had he??

[MaxB]

On the down side he was speeding in the rain with oncoming traffic with his kid on the back, all poor judgement calls for which he deserves a boot up the arse. Plus the fact that he did not see the camera van.

What worries me is the prison sentence. FFS it wasn't long ago a Devon yoof set fire to his mum with a can of lighter fliud and he did not go to jail.

The other thing is that if you try and estimate the distance travelled in the time taken say using the oncoming cars as a length marker and assuming a constant deceleration I still cannot get 122mph out of it. But he admitted dangerous driving so thats that.

[TLDV8]

What worries me is the prison sentence. FFS it wasn't long ago a Devon yoof set fire to his mum with a can of lighter fliud and he did not go to jail.

Here is a post from one of the UK TL guys. ( i edited it shorter)
It seems they are tough on anything regarded as dangerous driving.

Just spent the day in Court.

I was convicted of dangerous driving today, i did a wheelie, there was never any measurement of the speed i was doing at any point. The wheelie lasted a couple of seconds.

Dangerous driving starts out as a custodial sentence... yes JAIL TIME.

i was lucky that through mitigation they decided not to give me a jail sentence. instead i have been banned for a year and my license torn up... i have to sit an extended re-test after, the TLR is still mine and will be for a LONG time. thats not all. 120 hours community service. i was denied legal aid because im a hard working BASTARD who has a bloody good career considering my youthful age of 23...

so dont wheelie guys... NEVER! even if you dont speed whilst doing it, its still dangerous driving.... and let me put it into perspective for you:

Today in court, my case had the highest profile, it had to be decided in the morning if it should be passed onto the CROWN COURT... i was in shakes. whereas, there were two people in court for drink driving, both received a penalty of 12month ban... NO COMMUNITY SERVICE.

Firearms... someone walked out into a housing estate with an air riffle!
conditional discharge!!!

assault... some little twat beat up a polish woman, because he thought she said something about him in polish... convicted... 1 year suspended sentence!! in my eyes that is NOTHING!

so to summarize... to wheelie is now worse that, drink driving, carrying a gun and assaulting a helpless woman.

i was the only one wearing any sort of formal attire, i like my suits, which helped...

i feel utterly raped and abused by the 'justice' system.

[MaxB]

Times have bloody changed. Probably explains why there is record migration from the UK.

As an aside in the 80s I lived in Barstaple for a while (working OE) and knew the old A361 like the back of my hand. The link road was not finished then but I have been back since and rode it. I'm guessing where he got pinged was into the swoopy left hander NW of South Molton. The road there is more or less straight for a couple of ks e.g. an ideal place for the cops.

The thing is we used to speed on the old road all the time. Even the cops did. The cops spoke like they were from Hot Fuzz but they had their own special style of law enforcement. There was one unspoken rule: No speeding through the villages. Obey that and you were fine.

A country cop sidled up to me in the pub one time and said "I see you bin tearing round on that bike of yorn Boy. If you crash I ain't calling the ambulance. I'm gonna wait until your dead then I'm gonna piss on your corpse"

That slowed me down more than any ticket I have ever had.

[Dave Lobster]

Maybe there is some expectation that a parent should look out for the welfare of their children

Piffle. If that were the case, the government wouldn't still be giving hand outs to the people that let their children live six in a room on damp mattresses, while playing on new PS3s.
People that vote for Liabour in the UK can't afford motorbikes. They can't afford fast cars. People that do vote liabour are the low life that go around mugging old ladies, carrying weapons, etc. because they know they're better off under a socialist government.

It's a 'them and us' mentality of politics there. The nice government sticking it to the rich folk. It gets them re-elected.

If there was any expectation that a parent should look after its child, it'd be illegal to stuff a handful of them in the back of a clapped out mk2 escort, and then smoke with the windows up. It isn't..

If there was any expectation that a parent should look after a child, parents would be jailed for letting their child out on the street at night to smoke drugs and drink alcohol. It isn't.

The government doesn't give two fucks about children's welfare. All it cares about is getting itself elected again.

[vgcspares]

Bike Magazine (UK) did an article a few years back (2003 maybe) on the top 20 bike speeders (ranked by speed) and what they got:

the top 3 went to jail (160-180 mph range I think)

the next three were all cops and got let off with a smacked wrist

and a couple of the also rans went to jail too

proving once and for all there's one rule for us and another for the cops

[MarkH]

Bike Magazine (UK) did an article a few years back (2003 maybe) on the top 20 bike speeders (ranked by speed) and what they got:

the top 3 went to jail (160-180 mph range I think)

and a couple of the also rans went to jail too

That seems ridiculous - unless there were other mitigating factors like endangering a child then it is way over the top to send someone to prison for a burst of speed, even if it is really fast.

It is even worse when you consider:

Today in court, my case had the highest profile, it had to be decided in the morning if it should be passed onto the CROWN COURT... i was in shakes. whereas, there were two people in court for drink driving, both received a penalty of 12month ban... NO COMMUNITY SERVICE.

Firearms... someone walked out into a housing estate with an air riffle!
conditional discharge!!!

assault... some little twat beat up a polish woman, because he thought she said something about him in polish... convicted... 1 year suspended sentence!! in my eyes that is NOTHING!

so to summarize... to wheelie is now worse that, drink driving, carrying a gun and assaulting a helpless woman.

So the speeders are getting sent to prison when the violent thug that beat up a woman gets a suspended sentence - yeah right, that's fair. The speeders may put others at risk, but they didn't actually hurt anyone, the woman beater did actually hurt another person, intentionally - where is the fucking perspective here?

[vgcspares]

couldn't agree with you more, but the NZ/UK Fuzz and courts see it otherwise - possibly because they don't get voted in/out of office like Sheriffs and DAs in the States