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[FJRider]

At the court case, as only the other driver lived, his word had to be accepted. Somewhere along the line SOMEONE made a fatal mistake.Speed was not involved.

Some people seem to be saying they have perfect driving, riding habits at all times but absolutley none of us are perfect..myself included.

As far as I can see it's about TRYING to manage the risks AS BEST AS POSSIBLE but even that is no guarantee of safety.
Life is not safe and even the safe can suffer.

Speed is more often a factor... not the cause...

[davebullet]

Apparently after the advert the family in question traded in the plate for:
2DED4U

[saxet]

Speed is more often a factor... not the cause...
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One of the big mistakes in life, is the belief that you wont make one...

Two of the best comments I've seen all week.

[Hitcher]

Speed is more often a factor

Speed is more than a "factor", it's a necessity. Movement is a necessary precursor for almost all accidents and mishaps involving motor vehicles.

[peasea]

Speed is more than a "factor", it's a necessity. Movement is a necessary precursor for almost all accidents and mishaps involving motor vehicles.

Couldn't agree more. I always chuckle when the cops say "speed was involved" or "speed was a factor", how else could an object collide with another object without at least one of them attaining some level of speed?

I also mock those who claim their "vehicle lost control". Vehicles don't lose control, people do.

"Almost all..." ?? I'd go further than that. I can't think of any way an MVA could be classed as such without some sort of movement from one or more objects. Otherwise everything's parked up isn't it?

[peasea]

I drove the Ambulance in Waiouru quite a few times to accidents on THAT Desert road. Brought back bodies that were travelling a lot less than 120 km/hr.

It only takes one oil slip, one pot hole, one idiot on the wrong side of the road...and one of numerous "other"...one's ..

I'm not saying it's safe to pull 120 on the DR all the time. I've been up there in shocking conditions and dropped down to about 50kph! Sunny day, straight stretch? Nowt wrong with 120.

Good on you for your work, by the way.

[Mikkel]

Of course 85 in a 50 is b/s, like 100 in a 100 in peak hour is daft.

For crying out loud, the whole point here is that you can't just generalise about anything when it comes to speed versus conditions and time & place.

I am aware that there's going to be some people who have the head so far up their own arses that they are going to disagree here, but there are times and places where 85 km/h (or 200 km/h for that fucking matter) in a 50 km/h zone is perfectly safe (well, as far as safe goes in this life anyway). Exempli gratia: the causeway to Sumner here in Chch at 3 am on a still tuesday night. It's straight, flat, illuminated, no side roads, etc., etc.
100 in a 100 during peak hour isn't daft if you live Mayfield for fucks sake... surely it can not be that hard to see that you always have to evaluate the whole of whatever situation you are in.

No cancel that - shit like this just shows us exactly why we actually need speed limits. People say they are thinking for themselves, instead the generalise because they are fucking lazy and settle at the wrong conclusions.

[peasea]

For crying out loud, the whole point here is that you can't just generalise about anything when it comes to speed versus conditions and time & place.

I am aware that there's going to be some people who have the head so far up their own arses that they are going to disagree here, but there are times and places where 85 km/h (or 200 km/h for that fucking matter) in a 50 km/h zone is perfectly safe (well, as far as safe goes in this life anyway). Exempli gratia: the causeway to Sumner here in Chch at 3 am on a still tuesday night. It's straight, flat, illuminated, no side roads, etc., etc.
100 in a 100 during peak hour isn't daft if you live Mayfield for fucks sake... surely it can not be that hard to see that you always have to evaluate the whole of whatever situation you are in.

No cancel that - shit like this just shows us exactly why we actually need speed limits. People say they are thinking for themselves, instead the generalise because they are fucking lazy and settle at the wrong conclusions.

Perhaps I should have said "100kph in dense traffic standing on your seat facing backwards in peak hour is daft".

My bad.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Perhaps I should have said "100kph in dense traffic standing on your seat facing backwards in peak hour is daft".

My bad.

Yeah, if traffic is dense you should at least face forwards.

[Mikkel]

Perhaps I should have said "100kph in dense traffic standing on your seat facing backwards in peak hour is daft".

My bad.

No worries, except if the dense traffic is actually going faster than you - then keeping an eye on what comes up from behind is a good idea

On another note, if there is but one car within 200 meters of you in Mayfield during the rush hour, that would constitute dense traffic...

Yeah, if traffic is dense you should at least face forwards.

Sometimes a wheelie helps to get a better perspective of what happens up ahead. Never forget that.

[peasea]

On another note, if there is but one car within 200 meters of you in Mayfield during the rush hour, that would constitute dense traffic...

Because to live there you need to be dense?

[saxet]

Speed is more than a "factor", it's a necessity. Movement is a necessary precursor for almost all accidents and mishaps involving motor vehicles.

Alomst true but vehicles,humans and most times a road are also necessity.The phrase speed kills is a simplified statement to get across an idea but it is a simplification. Any further anaylisis of speed as a factor in traffic accidents normally brings us to speed for the conditions. It is possible to be involved in a traffic accident while stationary.
There is absolutely no denying speed is a major cause of accidents
It seems that "People Kill" is just as relevent a statement.

[scumdog]

Alomst true but vehicles,humans and most times a road are also necessity.The phrase speed kills is a simplified statement to get across an idea but it is a simplification. Any further anaylisis of speed as a factor in traffic accidents normally brings us to speed for the conditions. It is possible to be involved in a traffic accident while stationary.
There is absolutely no denying speed is a major cause of accidents
It seems that "People Kill" is just as relevent a statement.

I would say "Idiot Losers Kill" is a better slogan....

[MSTRS:Me]

... It is possible to be involved in a traffic accident while stationary....

One of the parties, maybe. Otherwise all that is left is opening a door against the vehicle parked beside you.

[scumdog]

Somewhere along the line SOMEONE made a fatal mistake.Speed was not involved..

Oh yes there was, had to be SOME speed by one or both parties.

Otherwise your mate might still be alive.

Wouldn't have to be exceding the 'speed limit' of course but still had to be some form of 'speed'....