Privatising the prison system discussion.

**skidMark** · 12th March 2009, 15:59

There was a topic on newstalk ZB a couple of days ago, regarding if our prisons should be privately owned, to take the pressure off the government, run for profit etc etc... obviously the companys who own them to turn a buck will be making them all work....

Okay so they pay them sweet fook all you know $1 an hour or something (just as a random number im just running through a thought process here)

If this labour is cheaper to be done by prisoners, are we not going to get the same situation of people having products made in say china etc...

Taking the low end jobs away from those currently doing them, as production costs are lower because they can pay prisoners less...

So i have the view that it would actually be a very bad move to have a prison privately owned...

Because in summary the low end jobs go from the genuine workers, so what is going to happen, even less jobs around when it is hard enough to get one now, does this not mean the crime rate will infact increase? pushing the prisons the an even higher population, therefore making more profit for the owners of the prison.

Anybody else have thoughts on this?

Skid.

**spudchucka** · 12th March 2009, 16:18

They should contract the corrections out to the Chinese or other such hard-nosed country, export the crims over there for their time and I'm sure that they wouldn't want to be going back any time soon.

**skidMark** · 12th March 2009, 16:21

Originally Posted by spudchucka

They should contract the corrections out to the Chinese or other such hard-nosed country, export the crims over there for their time and I'm sure that they wouldn't want to be going back any time soon.

Thats another thought, i mean we could already have them all doing volunteer work.... recovering old couches for the underpriveledged etc etc...

But if privatised this wont happen as they will trying to be running it for profit, and it you are making a product obviously the cheaper the labour the better, taking it away from those who actually need them.

**SPman** · 12th March 2009, 16:28

The only people who should have the authority to take away a citizens freedom and lock him up, is the state, not a privately owned company or corporation! Private corporations should not be running prisons except under the strictest conditions.
From the look of what's going through in this new bill, that's not going to happen.
The only work prisoners should be doing is community,non profit work, or planting forests or something, not competing in the marketplace against regular workers.

**AllanB** · 12th March 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by SPman

The only work prisoners should be doing is community,non profit work, or planting forests or something, not competing in the marketplace against regular workers.

Agree 100% - there must be heaps of suitable projects that most could do - a chain-gang could walk through central Christchurch at 3am picking up the bottles of V and fast food wrappers the youth leave lying about (WTF is it with that?).

I do wonder though if they privatise the prisons, would there be a better class of anal raping?

**R6_kid:Me** · 12th March 2009, 16:44

Maybe they should privatise the unemployment benefit aswell. Either that or give them council/government/roading jobs and start help the country forward rather than hold it back.

**The Stranger:Me** · 12th March 2009, 16:45

Originally Posted by skidMark

Okay so they pay them sweet fook all you know $1 an hour or something (just as a random number im just running through a thought process here)

So is there some suggestion that the crims are going to have to work to make the prison viable or are you just scared they will make you work when they cotton on to your benefit fraud?

**skidMark** · 12th March 2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Maybe they should privatise the unemployment benefit aswell. Either that or give them council/government/roading jobs and start help the country forward rather than hold it back.

Sweet, doesn't effect me.

Originally Posted by The Stranger

So is there some suggestion that the crims are going to have to work to make the prison viable or are you just scared they will make you work when they cotton on to your benefit fraud?

Fraud, what fraud?

This thread isn't about all that shit so cut it now.

This is a proper discussion not a skidMark abuse thread so grow the fuck up, bunch of bully's. Don't you have wooden blocks to try stack?

**The Stranger:Me** · 12th March 2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by skidMark

Fraud, what fraud?

Oh I dunno, people hanging around on the sickness benefit when there is nothing wrong with them - lazy isn't really a sickness.

Doesn't sound remotely economically viable - unless perhaps they have cameras set up and run it like big brother - or in your case little sister.

**skidMark** · 12th March 2009, 16:53

Originally Posted by The Stranger

Oh I dunno, people hanging around on the sickness benefit when there is nothing wrong with them - lazy isn't really a sickness.

Doesn't sound remotely economically viable - unless perhaps they have cameras set up and run it like big brother - or in your case little sister.

Invalids, not sickness, big difference.

A sickness is 45 year old men chasing 16 year old girls.

Want to keep going Noel?

**AllanB** · 12th March 2009, 16:58

Originally Posted by skidMark

A sickness is 45 year old men chasing 16 year old girls.

In a discussion regarding the legal system, the above is oddly enough LEGAL!

Now a moral discussion........

**The Stranger:Me** · 12th March 2009, 17:00

Originally Posted by skidMark

Invalids, not sickness, big difference.

A sickness is 45 year old men chasing 16 year old girls.

Want to keep going Noel?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, WTF, you poor bastard you really think that's going worry me - I posted it.

**Gubb** · 12th March 2009, 17:00

Good luck making the Prisoners pay to stay there.

Be a pretty shit Motel.

**skidMark** · 12th March 2009, 17:16

Originally Posted by AllanB

In a discussion regarding the legal system, the above is oddly enough LEGAL!

Now a moral discussion........

She was 15 when they started dating... and funnily enough this was my thread which i made.... for a proper discussion...

They are the monkeys who came in flicking thier turds.

**The Stranger:Me** · 12th March 2009, 17:19

Originally Posted by skidMark

She was 15 when they started dating... and funnily enough this was my thread which i made.... for a proper discussion...

They are the monkeys who came in flicking thier turds.

Jesus skiddy, I just asked if there was some suggestion the crims were going to have to earn their keep and some invalid got all pissy about it.