Dumb idea? Free sponsor offer.

**Tony.OK** · 12th March 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by Rob Taylor

Hmm,If only you rode Bears.

Far better pit tent to hang out in too

If I popped a cap off does that make my bike a triple? And a Honda is a Triumph in engineering

**3umph** · 12th March 2009, 21:17

You only want to advertise people or products that are helping you....

also unless you are in the signage game don't supply the signs yourself as signs can mount up depending on what is to be done... only time you should supply is if it is a good package offered that well covers the cost of signage...

Ive done signs for racecars and the cost of the signs have just about come to what they were first given... dont sell yourself short...

Most business have there own signwriter that know and have there logos so cheaper to get them to do it then start from scratch...

At the end of the day anyone that makes your racing or traveling cheaper, easier, donates products or services or helps out is a sponsor

**slowpoke** · 13th March 2009, 10:16

I dunno Tony, it's a bit of a long shot to sticker the bike up in the hope that they may one day return some luvin' your way........but it may just work out if you've got someone sitting on the fence and nearly, maybe, almost prepared to get involved.

If you had someone who was seriously considering helping you out but won't quite stump up with some cash it may just push them over the edge. Sticker up the bike, and invite them along to see you and the show in all their glory. Seeing themselves as part of it, and the ins and outs of actually getting on track might just be enough to get 'em to reach into their pocket and become a part of it themselves. Good luck.

**scuzeme** · 13th March 2009, 13:25

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

If you can do something for someones business and they see some reward they are more likely to help you out in return. If you say give me 5k and ill put a sticker on my bike then its gonna be a bit hard

Yeah Chops i agree with this and it does work both ways Metzeler for instance offer you a contract for the year and you plug them for the year and you buy their tyres for the year at a good price.
I think the logo on the fairing idea would work well if Tony (he may well have already) got out there and said something like "we have three sizes the $200 doller space the $500 dollar space the $2000 dollar space" in return you put the advertising on and buy product from them and plug them everyone one wins.
Its not the big companies that are going to finance this thing at grass roots level its the small companies the business owner that loves to watch motorsports on a sunday afternoon, i believe they will part with $200, $500 or even a couple if K if you put it before them, the problem is most of us are not salesmen and dont have the confidence to ask stangers for money.
On the other hand look at Marcus (Biggles) hes having trouble financing his racing at the mo but he is actively going out there getting sponsers.

Lastly i myself as a business owner would be prepared to help anyone if they came and saw me about sponsership it may only be a couple of hundred but if you got 10 people comitting $200 to $500 for the season then you are making a series dent in the cost of your racing for the season.
It is way to unfortunite that alot of good talent out there cannot hone their skills and improve becuase they cannot afford it, i guess if you have the passion you will find the cash somewhere aye.

**Tony.OK** · 13th March 2009, 14:08

Originally Posted by johan

Just paint "Below" next to your number plate, and you shall receive!

Originally Posted by sinfull

This man has idea's worth investigating ! Shame we won't remember a thing in the morning !

Twas a shame that 1.08 we got ya on the stop watch at wasn't an official recorded time Tony, Be worth a lot more a side then lol !

Sorry guys just checked with MNZ............alcomahol isn't allowed as a sponsor in NZ

Shame.............would've been cool to see what might've come about.

**johan** · 13th March 2009, 14:19

Wasn't Tui one of the sponsors at the Cemetery Circuit?

Are they allowed to sponsor events but not riders?

**Tony.OK** · 13th March 2009, 14:28

Originally Posted by johan

Wasn't Tui one of the sponsors at the Cemetery Circuit?

Are they allowed to sponsor events but not riders?

Just had a look and you're dead right me ole mate

......................back to the phone!

Edit: hold the phone.........now its a maybe

After asking why Wanga's used Tui and the Hamilton street races have Lion Red

as their sponsors they have to check with the CEO, so will hear back on Monday once Paul's back.

**sinfull** · 13th March 2009, 19:07

Mmmmmm boubon fuelled !

**CHOPPA** · 13th March 2009, 22:13

Jim Beam sponsor lots of motorsport, a freestyle mx team but i doubt there mnz members.

I wouldnt have asked!

There was actually a 250gp bike i think it was anyway, racing clubmen at the nats with Tui all over his bike he had a number on it something like 2e as well

**Tony.OK** · 14th March 2009, 09:44

Originally Posted by slowpoke

I dunno Tony, it's a bit of a long shot to sticker the bike up in the hope that they may one day return some luvin' your way........but it may just work out if you've got someone sitting on the fence and nearly, maybe, almost prepared to get involved.

If you had someone who was seriously considering helping you out but won't quite stump up with some cash it may just push them over the edge. Sticker up the bike, and invite them along to see you and the show in all their glory. Seeing themselves as part of it, and the ins and outs of actually getting on track might just be enough to get 'em to reach into their pocket and become a part of it themselves. Good luck.

Could be thought of as sort of a trial or apprenticeship huh?

Originally Posted by scuzeme

Lastly i myself as a business owner would be prepared to help anyone if they came and saw me about sponsership it may only be a couple of hundred but if you got 10 people comitting $200 to $500 for the season then you are making a series dent in the cost of your racing for the season.

Ohh now you've gone and done it.............................can I send my bruv around? He lives down there

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Jim Beam sponsor lots of motorsport, a freestyle mx team but i doubt there mnz members.

I wouldnt have asked!

But imagine jacking it all up only to be told when ya turn up to race you ain't allowed that advertising...................could be a whole can of worms aye?

**Shaun P** · 14th March 2009, 17:21

Tell ya what you could try.. offer the free?(low cost maybe) signage but with performance incentives for eg 1st place $500 2nd place $300...per round placings etc

**Tony.OK** · 14th March 2009, 18:17

Originally Posted by Shaun P

Tell ya what you could try.. offer the free?(low cost maybe) signage but with performance incentives for eg 1st place $500 2nd place $300...per round placings etc

Thats a good idea dude................

**GIXser** · 16th March 2009, 20:53

Originally Posted by sinfull

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ii was literally on the floor laughing.. actually would have been hilarious as i was on the shitta....

**GIXser** · 16th March 2009, 20:59

seriously tony.. knock on enough doors and someone will answer...like choppa said you have to be genuine, and i believe you are!
it will happen.. keep knocking dude i like the plan you have come up with, i also truly believe in give and you shall recieve, i never believed it a few years ago, then i started going out of my way for people, and voila... it happens and so far it keeps on happening. even bigger and brighter things.

**Mishy** · 16th March 2009, 21:12

My two cents worth - don't carry signage for anyone who isn't contribting/helping in some way. Why ? well if i paid you $1000 hoping to get exposure on your bike, and then found you were advertising a product from a company that paid you nothing, i'd be pissed. The biggest thing I think we need to remember is that we have to give something back when money or product comes our way. We have to make sure we work hard for the sponsors we do have ( not many in most of our cases) and preserve the value of what we have to offer in return for their support. Ever notice that International cricketers sometimes use bats without any stickering on it ? thats just because they had to pay for it, so they won't advertise the product.
I'll go back to sleep now . . . . . . . . . .