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    Just as another idea ...... What about the new Gladius ??? around the price ... ?? Just an idea. They look nice. They are an updated SV650 I suppose, but there's

    nothing wrong with an SV650 .... especially if the top speed thing isn't an issue .. I reckon they would be a really nice mid size bike ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBD View Post
    Yes mate, got that, fat fingers, small keys and rushed typing a tewin make...

    Sorry to disapoint with my lack of a real bike, happy with the TL?, just bought an SV 650 K9 for the daughter, I think she will be happy with it.

    BTW the pat on the back was for 90 degree twins in general...take a bow
    Not at all mate,course you have a real bike.I reckon your daughter will love the SV,fantastic little bike jesus i wish someone would buy me one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Not at all mate,course you have a real bike.I reckon your daughter will love the SV,fantastic little bike jesus i wish someone would buy me one.
    Thats what Daddys are for....She will be needing it soon enough too, some one nicked her car yesterday, a red mazda sport wagon from west harbour...bastards.

    She was moving house, car was way up the drive, keys in it...of course, carrying stuff into the house. She came out for another load and....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    bevel drive ducs (read as real Ducatis) a couple of later models (both pieces of characterless shit)
    Bevel drive dukes as real Ducatis?
    Granted the Bevels have character and shall we say attitude? perhaps a lot of heritage too.

    Me I prefer something in the early ninties as a daily rider.
    For No. 2 I'm erring on the side of a Bevel as a keeper, recommend anyone in particular that's not worth it's weight in gold?
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    LBD & Mikeyoo1 ...

    Off topic/thread takeover !!

    The author wanted input into a Honda or Suzuki V twin as a replacement for a CB900 .... nothing to do with the merits, or lack of, ..... of a bevel drive Duc ? or stolen cars ......


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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Not that that means much. My v(l)twin shakes itself stupid. Mirrors completely shake into a blur around 5,000rpm. Aint nothin "smooth" about vtwins. Its awesome! LOL.

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    My VStrom is smooth enough so that the mirrors are clear at all rpm's.

    I do prefer v-twins. Never been a fan of 4's as they sound like blenders, and usually don't have good fuel economy.

    The SV650 is made by Hyosung, under license of course. Compare SV's and Hyo 650's - there is a close similarity. Hyo has been making parts for Suzuki for around 30 years. It would be interesting to see if SV's vibrate as much as Hyo's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post
    Never been a fan of 4's as they sound like blenders,
    Mine doesn't!

    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post

    and usually don't have good fuel economy.
    Well you have to burn gas to make power, and a V Twin may be only making two thirds the power of an inline four so hopefully it should burn less gas. Generally though most of the inline four owners would probably rather have the performance than the economy.

    Until the oil starts to run out anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Well you have to burn gas to make power, and a V Twin may be only making two thirds the power of an inline four ..
    5/6 according to WSBK

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    Twins are for torque. Who wants to be on an unfaired bike at 250kph+? - not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBD View Post
    5/6 according to WSBK
    I don't think they've got it quite right.

    The comparison I used was the BIKE article which wasn't entirely appropriate. The Ducati makes just over two thirds of the power of the 600 Hornet, but then the Duc is a 696.

    Close enough for government work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Well you have to burn gas to make power, and a V Twin may be only making two thirds the power of an inline four so hopefully it should burn less gas. Generally though most of the inline four owners would probably rather have the performance than the economy.

    Until the oil starts to run out anyway...
    If you are only looking at hp figures, that is highly misleading. The more accurate ratio is hp:mass. Two cylinders weigh less than four = less weight to propel your beast down the road.

    At the heart of it the only figures which matter (regarding power) are the published quarter mile and 0 - 100kph times. And V-twins do just fine. My mates 1200 Bandit had 125hp and slightly slower quarter mile than my Duke with its 105hp.

    Beyond that, the torque curve interests some of us and again, V-Twins excell. Having said that, I acknowledge my 916 motor likes the revs and the torque comes in much higher than I originally expected. No 2000rpm tootling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post
    Never been a fan of 4's as they sound like blenders, and usually don't have good fuel economy.
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Mine doesn't!
    Neither does mine!
    It sounds nothing like a blender - more like a V8 cakemixer!
    As for fuel economy - it consistently gets around 40-45mpg (5.4-5.2 litres/100km) and that's with fairly thrashy communtering. In comparison, the FahrtSturm (which sounded nothing like a kitchen appliance) could only manage around 30mpg (~8 litres/100km)if I was lucky.

    N.E. Weigh, the sound has little to do with the V4ness - it's about the cam drive. The early V4s had camchains, then they went to gear-driven quad cams, with the drive gear in the centre of the camshaft, which was kewl, because they were symmetrical, so you could rotate them lengthways and end up with a twin-twin. In 1998-2001, the VFRs had new engines, with the cam drive gear on the right-hand end of the camshaft, to make the engine block more compact. This also made the engine much noisier, so in 2002, Honda went back to camchains to meet EC noise regulations (same with the VTec: made less intake noise and lower emissions at the rev range testing was done at).

    I can't speak for other V4 engines like the Desmosedici or the VMax, coz I dunno.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    As for fuel economy - it consistently gets around 40-45mpg (5.4-5.2 litres/100km) and that's with fairly thrashy communtering.
    Looks like my next bike may well be a VFR800. Honest - I have had 5 bikes but never a Honda and never a 4 cyl, and I like to try something new. Not that I am keen on changing bikes now, but if I see a VFR at a dealers I will try for a test ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post
    Looks like my next bike may well be a VFR800. Honest - I have had 5 bikes but never a Honda and never a 4 cyl, and I like to try something new. Not that I am keen on changing bikes now, but if I see a VFR at a dealers I will try for a test ride.


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    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Ive done plenty of 8/9 hour days on a TL with no problem,i can honestly say that a mates SV is the most uncomfortable bike i have ever had the dis-pleasure to put my arse on.If you were after top speed you would buy neither.
    My theory is that your mate really didn't want a TL rider messing with his SV, so hid a couple of rocks under the seat I recently rode just over 2000k on my SV over three and a bit days, had a ball, and comfy as a sofa. You're right about top end being the forte of the multi's, but the big v-twins are not real sluggish either, and when it comes to winding along roads like the long way from Opotiki to Gisborne, or over Mt Messenger, or Highway 43, they are just sublime.

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