So, a rozza enters my home...

[peasea]

I doubt they're gonna find many of those in the suburbs at 11am.
It's all about road safety though, isn't it?

Don't be so sure. Just the other day a guy I know blew 400 at just about that time. He was pretty hung-over. Keys taken, told to come back in 12 hours coz he hadn't been 'OVER' 400. Just goes to show.......

[Oscar]

I could... you weren't playing nice so...

Have you recovered from your hissy fit then?

Pot kettle black etc...

[jahrasti]

I doubt they're gonna find many of those in the suburbs at 11am.
It's all about road safety though, isn't it?

This is the quote of the year. I am going to print it off and pin it up at work.

[Patrick]

Have you recovered from your hissy fit then?

Pot kettle black etc...

And what abuse/cock comments did I make in return???? You lost ya rag little fella...

I get abuse at work all the time, ... usually drunk scrotes though....

I was way over it back at the red squad comments. Just went fishing..... and the reel screamed...

Oh well, fun over....

Hey - I had learned German, you will be so pleased... Just forgot about it....

It gets the land sharks going....

[Winston001]

Pigfish.

What I object to is the slow erosion of my rights.
Enabling random stopping for Breath Testing was a step on the slippery slope.
Now you see checkpoints for WOF's and rego - how can that be legal?

Until about 1984 random stopping was illegal but the Court of Appeal then decided to allow it as the reasonable exercise of powers under the Transport Act 1981. Parliament hardened that up by confirming the powers in legislation.

But I'm with you Oscar in principle. Who watches the watchers? We do need to be vigilant about erosion of our freedoms and one of those used to be the ability to move around without let or hindrance. "Show me your papers....." isn't a long step from random stopping - and in case anyone thinks that's an exaggeration, the police already hold the power to require you to identify yourself. Name age and address.

Rage rage against the dying of the light.....

[Oscar]

Until about 1984 random stopping was illegal but the Court of Appeal then decided to allow it as the reasonable exercise of powers under the Transport Act 1981. Parliament hardened that up by confirming the powers in legislation.

But I'm with you Oscar in principle. Who watches the watchers? We do need to be vigilant about erosion of our freedoms and one of those used to be the ability to move around without let or hindrance. "Show me your papers....." isn't a long step from random stopping - and in case anyone thinks that's an exaggeration, the police already hold the power to require you to identify yourself. Name age and address.

Rage rage against the dying of the light.....

And the supercilious attitude/comments by the Cops here don't exactly fill me with confidence...

[Oscar]

And what abuse/cock comments did I make in return???? You lost ya rag little fella...

I get abuse at work all the time, ... usually drunk scrotes though....

I was way over it back at the red squad comments. Just went fishing..... and the reel screamed...

Oh well, fun over....

Hey - I had learned German, you will be so pleased... Just forgot about it....

It gets the land sharks going....

You should check which end of that line yer holding.
For someone who is only fishing you spend a lot of time bleating and whining

[Winston001]

And the supercilious attitude/comments by the Cops here don't exactly fill me with confidence...

Yeah but the guys here get abused daily doing their job, and then abused online as well. Can't blame them for being dismissive, particularly if you consider some of the outrageous and laughable anti-cop stuff posted. I suspect they can't be bothered explaining because next day there will be a new thread with the same stuff.

[Oscar]

Yeah but the guys here get abused daily doing their job, and then abused online as well. Can't blame them for being dismissive, particularly if you consider some of the outrageous and laughable anti-cop stuff posted. I suspect they can't be bothered explaining because next day there will be a new thread with the same stuff.

Yeah there may be some truth in that, but it is in a forum entitled "rant or rave" and at sometime everybody gets abused in here.

Notwithstanding that, there has been a radical shift in the attitude of the public (IMHO) in the last generation. Thanks to a combination of stringent highway policing and that wanker from the LTSA, the cops have lost a lot of respect over the last 20 or 30 years.

[Big Dave]

First time Summy has been called super anything since 'streak'.

[tri boy]

Had a nice chat with a certain traffic sarge this morning.
Very relaxed and informative.
After a breif discussion on the severity of the issue and process that is generally set in motion, we both agreed that it was more a misinterpretation by both parties in how such situations like this are handled to achieve the best outcome, and that communication seemed to have broken down by the speed in which the requests, and following entry into the house had happened.
My view was that if a little more time was allowed for mutual understanding of both parties positions in the situation, rather than the more "enthusiastic approach", then there would of been no escalation of the situation.
The sarge did say that the officer had been assigned to his sector for at least two years, and was a very good character, and also freely mentioned that he was "enthusiastic" and confident.
My suggestions with regards to slowing such situations down a bit to allow joe citizen to get a handle on the moment was well received, and were to be passed on to the rozza.
End result? Good communication was shared, and the system was shown to work.
This was a minor complaint, and I wouldn't compare it to serious, complex situations, but my faith with our policing system and complaints procedures remain intact.

[spudchucka]

Yeah there may be some truth in that, but it is in a forum entitled "rant or rave" and at sometime everybody gets abused in here.

So are you only allowed to rank and rave if you are of a specific vocation?

[spudchucka]

the police already hold the power to require you to identify yourself[/B]. Name age and address.

In certain circumstances only, under the Land Transport Act or when under arrest for an offence. You can't just go around stopping people on the street, demanding to see their "papers".

[Oscar]

So are you only allowed to rank and rave if you are of a specific vocation?

Er..no - I said everyone gets the borax at some stage.
I am certainly not immune - one of my earliest rep. comments called me a "scrotum licking fuckhead".
Crude, but it has a certain idiomatic poetry to it....

[Patrick]

You should check which end of that line yer holding.
For someone who is only fishing you spend a lot of time bleating and whining

Pot kettle black....???

Yeah but the guys here get abused daily doing their job, and then abused online as well. Can't blame them for being dismissive, particularly if you consider some of the outrageous and laughable anti-cop stuff posted. I suspect they can't be bothered explaining because next day there will be a new thread with the same stuff.

Makes one wonder, "why bother..." but hey...

Helped more out than upset, by a long shot, both at work and on here... Thats why, I suppose.....

Notwithstanding that, there has been a radical shift in the attitude of the public (IMHO) in the last generation. Thanks to a combination of stringent highway policing and that wanker from the LTSA, the cops have lost a lot of respect over the last 20 or 30 years.

The merger was 16 years ago or more... but some can't let it go... No one likes getting tickets, I know I sure don't... but who is to blame? One look in the mirror is a good clue. Blaming H/W, Snakes, whatever, is blame shifting to a target which can't fight back.

The bad media beat ups of recent years also fuel the lack of respect, but when one looks at it, it is the actions of a very few, which affect the look of the other 11,000 odd.... You just can't sort that out, probably never will, because there will always be something that will happen and we make news... great news...., which sells papers/ratings.

But hey, cops still rate better than car salesmen and polititians.. I'd be worried if they pass us in them polls....

Had a nice chat with a certain traffic sarge this morning. Very relaxed and informative........End result? Good communication was shared, and the system was shown to work.
This was a minor complaint, and I wouldn't compare it to serious, complex situations, but my faith with our policing system and complaints procedures remain intact.

And good on ya... two way streets are a good thing.