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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Awww shucks. Thanks Love! The thing is...I answered their question about why are so many middle aged guys buying bikes with "It's not just guys...more women are buying bikes now than I've ever seen"

    They asked.."Why are so many dying?" I said "More riders = more accidents"

    They asked "What can we do about motorcycle safety?"

    I said..."Educate the FUCKING DRIVERS OF CARS". I then said that Kiwis think it's their RIGHT to get a drivers licence at the age of 15...when in actual fact...that 'right' should be earnt. That it's far too easy for pimply faced young kids to drive fast cars that kill...yet you're going on about 'guys' that hurt themselves riding motorcycles.

    Next time I get asked to say anything if front of a camera...I'll refuse unless they agree that they'll show everything I say!

    Rant over.
    I thought you came across better on TV than with the above load of bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It pisses me off that a statement can be made like the one I quoted above that contains every single item that may enhance one's chance of survival except the one that is singularly most important - our own fucking common sense.
    After reading your post a couple of times, I'm assuming you are referring to the previous post you quoted, as opposed to the quote you posted from me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    After reading your post a couple of times, I'm assuming you are referring to the previous post you quoted, as opposed to the quote you posted from me?
    Fixed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Fixed.

    All good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    I have no idea what the point of that was.
    They didnt really make any points, in my opinion all they did was bag motorcyclists!

    The main guy in the first half of the program seemed to be busy bagging harleys.

    The death they reported on was a guy who hit diesel(although if you look at the road shown, there was a VERY NASTY looking line of tar bleed), and crashed. What relivance does that have to born again bikers crashing? Did they not have tar bleed/diesel in the "70s?

    In the second half, it seemed the presenter was just sucking Phill G's nob...

    Anyway, im going to enjoy sitting here being notoriously difficult to educate, wondering why wont they wont show some bike racing, eg Paeroa, on their news show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Sure you can...but not sure my nuts have enough 'ink' to sign my name for ya!
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

    You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

    We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    They asked.."Why are so many dying?" I said "More riders = more accidents"

    They asked "What can we do about motorcycle safety?"

    I said..."Educate the FUCKING DRIVERS OF CARS".

    75% of fatal motorcycle accidents in NZ are rider error, yet you want to educate car drivers to fix the problem...???

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    Things I learned while watching that piece'o'shite puff piece...

    1) I am notoriously hard to educate. Ask the wife, she knows.

    2) Every wannabe biker needs to sit down with a berating psychologist who doesn't have the first idea what the hell makes a biker tick.

    3) Phil Goff has no taste in bikes.

    4) Crasherfromwayback (Pete) looks good on camera

    5) Paul Henry is a dick...oh hang on, I knew that already
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    Quote Originally Posted by NC View Post
    It happens, shit that is.
    Another reason to ride alone.
    When you are riding along and a big hunk of frozen urine from a jet-plane hits your bike causing you to fall off - that's 'shit happens'

    A diesel spill around a blind corner - unfortunately 'shit happens'

    A try-hard on a bike on the wrong side of the road on a blind corner - that's not shit happens - that's some fool biker being a shit.



    I've watched the article online twice - not really sure what you are all getting your nickers twisted over - they stated clearly it was possibly a diesel spill that caused the rider to go down, they also stated he'd been riding all his life. He sounds like a decent, well respected chap. He was just an example of a almost 40 year old biker dying, as they appear to have been once every 5 days this year. Plus they stated that about 50% are caused by other road users.

    That's some pretty shit statistics regardless how or why it is happening - and the KB community is aware of it - do a search for 'biker down'......

    Mid-life crisis - probably true of lots of riders, so what, who cares why you get back into it, it's farking great. The point was maybe don't go straight back onto a big bike or first do a rider training course.

    Bikers being a notoriously hard bunch to educate - classic comment - I may get T-shirts printed Mainly because it appears true - just watch the responses on KB to Katmans posts about slowing down or public awareness.

    Harleys - pretty much the only comment I objected to in the article was the 'don't go around corners' one.

    Goff - respect gained, mental bling given - just don't fall off the bastard or the media will slaughter us all!

    I'll be out for a hoon this weekend, there is bound to be some speed involved, but I'll be watching both sides of the road pretty sharply.

    Best of all I'll have a smile on my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockbuddy View Post
    the government owned tvnz were told to run that "beat up" on motorcyclists so the can justify raising the acc levies on our registration. just wait and see


    How often do the Monday morning papers read... "6 killed on the roads over the weekend, 3 of which were motorcyclists"

    Much too often. It doesn't take a genius to work out that if a small minority of road users are making up 50% of the road fatalities weekend after weekend - that some aren't going to take a closer look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer View Post
    One thing they neglected to mention was the fact there are a lot of women motorcyclists too.
    Yes there are.


    And how many of them crash and kill themselves?
    Nowhere near as much. In fact ACC and the MOT mention this as well. Female riders are dramatically underrepresented from motorcycle accident statistics even though there are lots of female riders.

    This suggests that the problem is largely male dick measuring ego bullshit that is getting the male riders killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post


    How often do the Monday morning papers read... "6 killed on the roads over the weekend, 3 of which were motorcyclists"

    Much too often. It doesn't take a genius to work out that if a small minority of road users are making up 50% of the road fatalities weekend after weekend - that some aren't going to take a closer look.
    56 bikers killed last year i think the stats they quoted... thats not half the road toll...

    so fuck all times bikes are making half the road toll each weekend

    but yes there has been a bad run since christmas so far this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3umph View Post
    56 bikers killed last year i think the stats they quoted... thats not half the road toll...

    so fuck all times bikes are making half the road toll each weekend

    but yes there has been a bad run since christmas so far this year

    That's the thing about statistics and why the media love them, depending on how you quote them and depending on what information you neglect to quote, they can pretty well say whatever you want them to say.

    Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3umph View Post
    56 bikers killed last year i think the stats they quoted... thats not half the road toll...

    so fuck all times bikes are making half the road toll each weekend

    But a lot of bikes only get taken out and used on the weekends.

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