TV1 - Close Up @ 7.00pm - Returning riders causing accidents (20 March)

**Mom** · 20th March 2009, 20:33

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Ta mate. Problem being I had a ten minute speal with the reporter...but the bits I really wanted them to air they didn't.

That whole editiing thing sucks sometimes for sure. Good effort Pete!

That female head doctor needs to step out here in the real world, apparently bikes are a blokes domain.

I actually thought that was a reasonable item on the whole, I did not watch all of the end bit with Paul Henry to be fair, but I did hear an acknowledgement that not enough has been done by the MOT to highlight the specific safety issues we face as motorcyclists on the road. Phill Goff even said we are not seen.

**sinned** · 20th March 2009, 20:40

Originally Posted by Rockbuddy

the government owned tvnz were told to run that "beat up" on motorcyclists so the can justify raising the acc levies on our registration. just wait and see

Originally Posted by twotyred

amongst other plans to reduce motorcyclists rights,no doubt...

There has been a change in government. Just because the last lot may have misused power doesn't mean that particular misuse will continue. Key has more pressing issues to deal with.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 20th March 2009, 20:46

Originally Posted by Mom

That whole editiing thing sucks sometimes for sure. Good effort Pete!

That female head doctor needs to step out here in the real world, apparently bikes are a blokes domain. .

Awww shucks. Thanks Love! The thing is...I answered their question about why are so many middle aged guys buying bikes with "It's not just guys...more women are buying bikes now than I've ever seen"

They asked.."Why are so many dying?" I said "More riders = more accidents"

They asked "What can we do about motorcycle safety?"

I said..."Educate the FUCKING DRIVERS OF CARS". I then said that Kiwis think it's their RIGHT to get a drivers licence at the age of 15...when in actual fact...that 'right' should be earnt. That it's far too easy for pimply faced young kids to drive fast cars that kill...yet you're going on about 'guys' that hurt themselves riding motorcycles.

Next time I get asked to say anything if front of a camera...I'll refuse unless they agree that they'll show everything I say!

Rant over.

**Mom** · 20th March 2009, 20:52

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Awww shucks. Thanks Love! The thing is...I answered their question about why are so many middle aged guys buying bikes with "It's not just guys...more women are buying bikes now than I've ever seen"

They asked.."Why are so many dying?" I said "More riders = more accidents"

They asked "What can we do about motorcycle safety?"

I said..."Educate the FUCKING DRIVERS OF CARS". I then said that Kiwis think it's their RIGHT to get a drivers licence at the age of 15...when in actual fact...that 'right' should be earnt. That it's far too easy for pimply faced young kids to drive fast cars that kill...yet you're going on about 'guys' that hurt themselves riding motorcycles.

Next time I get asked to say anything if front of a camera...I'll refuse unless they agree that they'll show everything I say!

Rant over.

Worst of it is the reporter has no control over editing, and the edited version is often far from what was said as you have discovered tonight. You still did well mate. The bias that item came from was obvious, but on the whole I dont think it was all negative, I heard positives too.

PS: Can I have your autograph seeing as you are famous and all

**Crasherfromwayback** · 20th March 2009, 20:57

Originally Posted by Mom

PS: Can I have your autograph seeing as you are famous and all

Sure you can...but not sure my nuts have enough 'ink' to sign my name for ya!

**naphazoline** · 20th March 2009, 21:02

Saying that we are just trying to be young again/relive our youth?????.........
What a fu#king insult.
They're not showing any credibility as either a physcologist,or a reporter.

Also,i don't wear this thing about "motorists just not seeing motorcyclists". Seems a little convenient.
sure it DOES happen,,,BUT i feel it's a scapegoat in some instances.

How many times have we been on our bikes,and see somebody in a car looking at us,yet they still cut us off/pull out in front off us.

Is there some way we can sign a petition,and have it sent in to close up/tvnz,to voice our views on their Mis-reporting?

There's power in numbers,and with some of the valid points mentioned in this thread,i reckon it would be good to get some positive publicity for bikers after all the biker bashing of late.

Just a thought

**Paris** · 20th March 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by naphazoline

Saying that we are just trying to be young again/relive our youth?????.........
What a fu#king insult.
They're not showing any credibility as either a physcologist,or a reporter.

Also,i don't wear this thing about "motorists just not seeing motorcyclists". Seems a little convenient.
sure it DOES happen,,,BUT i feel it's a scapegoat in some instances.

How many times have we been on our bikes,and see somebody in a car looking at us,yet they still cut us off/pull out in front off us.

Is there some way we can sign a petition,and have it sent in to close up/tvnz,to voice our views on their Mis-reporting?

There's power in numbers,and with some of the valid points mentioned in this thread,i reckon it would be good to get some positive publicity for bikers after all the biker bashing of late.

Just a thought

Totally ... fed up with people biker bashing .. it's boring - maybe we need a bike rider rally one weekend or something - there are more bikers around now, it's that simple eh...

**Shadows** · 20th March 2009, 21:10

For those that missed it

http://tvnzondemand.co.nz/content/cl..._up_2009_03_20

**Ixion** · 20th March 2009, 21:19

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Ixion!!

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You bellowed ? I ain't crashed - just been trapped in Banjoland where the Internets has not yet penetrated. And I aint actually Born Again- in fact I dispute evn being born once. I didn't see it cos I never watch television. I gather they claimed that most of the (lamentable) fatal crashes this year were down to that current whipping boy, the Born Again Biker. I would like to know how they determine if the victim is indeed a BAB? Or do they classify ANY biker over 25 as being "Born again".

Should BRONZ complain about it ?

**mikeey01** · 20th March 2009, 21:20

Just watched it on-line....
Typical shite journo biased point of view, ignore this and it wasn't all that bad.

Born again bikers.. even the name tag gives me the shits!

**_Shrek_** · 20th March 2009, 21:22

Originally Posted by 1billyboy

I am glad I am over 38. But back in the last centuary 60tees I was called a temporay New Zealander but I am still here

a real living &

Fossil onya Billy

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**Ocean1** · 20th March 2009, 21:25

Originally Posted by Ixion

I gather they claimed that most of the (lamentable) fatal crashes this year were down to that current whipping boy, the Born Again Biker.

More or less. Check out the linkything above your post.

Originally Posted by Ixion

Should BRONZ complain about it ?

Would it matter that it'd make not a jot of difference?

**munster** · 20th March 2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by sil3ntwar

Anyone else notice the MP riding the bike on tv without wearing a helmet? Didnt catch the name.

Looked like Hone Harawira to me.

I'm one of those returning riders too. Damned if I'm going to be a silly ass and hurt myself, I'd miss out on too much hunting!

Once I find a suitable affordable wife approved bike, I will be enrolling in a Ride Right Ride Safe course.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 20th March 2009, 21:31

I watched it but got to that "shouting at the TV stage" and gave up. Their premise seemed to be "born again bikers are teh suck" yet the example of the poor guy who died when he came off a Busa was not a BUB: he had been riding since ages ago, i.e. he didnt stop. They did say they thought it was diesel spilled on the road that he fell off on. But instead of looking to see if that was in fact correct, finding out whodunnit and prosecuting the individual concerned, they blame the victim.

Sanctimonius gutter crap. I'll have no part of it.
I did develop a bit more respect for Goff, seeing that he could in fact ride.