TV1 - Close Up @ 7.00pm - Returning riders causing accidents (20 March)

**Katman** · 22nd March 2009, 11:33

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Can't draw parallels between bikers and boi racers...

A large proportion of the general public do exactly that (quite regardless of the article on TV the other night).

**MSTRS:Me** · 22nd March 2009, 11:43

Now, I'm not saying that the biker who was killed was squeaky clean, whatever he was doing played a part. BUT how many of us that watched saw the long patch of tar bleed leading up to the crash site? And just knew that there was a big part of what happened? And how many car drivers saw the same thing? And never clicked as to the effect? Because, in general, 'they' are not affected by this major problem.
In HB we have our share of this shit, but a recent trip I did to Taranaki shocked me as to the extent of it there. Is the cause massive truck movements of the milk tanker variety?
The slightest bit of damp on this crap, and the unwary motorcyclist is dead meat. But the stats will only reflect 'single vehicle motorcycle fatality'. So Johnny Careful-But-Unlucky is now a hoon.

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 11:45

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Can't draw parallels between bikers and boi racers
*bullshit stats, but you get the idea*...100% of boi racers are idiots - 2% of bikers are idiots.
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No, you can't draw any parallels there, nor can I, but the general public can and the general public's perception of how things are is what carries the weight!

The way to stop that perception is to sort out that "2%" who most certainly are going to make things more expensive for the rest.

**MSTRS:Me** · 22nd March 2009, 11:46

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Actually, they aired it to reaffirm the sanctimonious and sage noddings of 98% of the population, and the humour involved for the other 2%.
Media and truth are not intimately acquainted....

Originally Posted by Katman

A large proportion of the general public do exactly that (quite regardless of the article on TV the other night).

Did you miss that bit?

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 11:58

Originally Posted by MSTRS

The slightest bit of damp on this crap, and the unwary motorcyclist is dead meat.
.

To me,what this shows is that bikes are inherently more dangerous than cars, - deep down we all know this and we do learn (well most of us do) to hone our riding techniques and learn to read road surfaces to avoid these things happening, but as they say, shit sometimes happens, - as in this case.

Flying light aircraft is also dangerous, - but good inspection skills, piloting skills and commonsense (and rules) overcomes this, whereas, on a bike you are really free as the breeze and even f-wits are allowed to ride!

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 12:01

A psychiatric assessment might be in order sometimes!

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 12:04

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Did you miss that bit?

Must've done! - well, I'm old - I've got an excuse!

**BMWST?** · 22nd March 2009, 12:35

Originally Posted by dipshit

Blah blah blah...

So did you or didn't you know that three-quarters of fatal motorcycle accidents in NZ were rider error..??

And if you did know this how would "Educate the FUCKING DRIVERS OF CARS" help..??

it could help the other twenty five percent!

**BMWST?** · 22nd March 2009, 12:36

Originally Posted by chrispy121

that Mp's can ride bike on Parliment grounds with out helmets?

parliament grounds is not a road

**BMWST?** · 22nd March 2009, 12:42

Originally Posted by Maha

Agreed, its turned into (in good ole' KB fashion) Chinese Whispers....

Starting with.... returning rider buying big bikes and crashing....onto Harley Bashing and then shock horror...personal attackes!!!

the harley bashing started on tv actually

**MSTRS:Me** · 22nd March 2009, 12:42

Originally Posted by WilDun

Flying light aircraft is also dangerous, - but good inspection skills, piloting skills and commonsense (and rules) overcomes this, whereas, on a bike you are really free as the breeze and even f-wits are allowed to ride!

And the difference between the two is? Pilots don't make mistakes? Remember Erebus? And the recent tragedy off the South coast of France?
And fuckwits are allowed to fly too, Paul Holmes has a pilot's licence

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 12:53

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Remember Erebus? And the recent tragedy off the South coast of France?
And fuckwits are allowed to fly too, Paul Holmes has a pilot's licence

The DC10 and the Airbus are light aircraft??

Paul Holmes did have the sense to get out! anyway, he's exempt from the generalisation, - he's a case all on his own!

**WilDun** · 22nd March 2009, 12:55

And best of all, thankfully,he's not interested in bikes!

**BMWST?** · 22nd March 2009, 12:57

the greater public has always thought of motorcyclists as 2 percenters,nothing changed there.
I actually thought that Goff presented us IN A GOOD LIGHT,and more than once the 50 percent stat was aired.It may lead to some publicity for us and for other road users.That surely must be a good thing for eveyone.
I predict some sort of tv "education "time is coming