PT racers or thinking about racing PT

[FROSTY:Me]

---And another sponsor ups and walks out the door.

[GSVR]

The rules are very clear that emulators are allowed and nothing such as cartridges are allowed. Unless you have an inside running with MNZ to change the rules your statement has no basis in fact. If you are referring to the cheap copies I can cite very serious shortcomings, we have analysed these with a very open mind and the action and longevity is less than impressive. We had a guy on the Race Tech course last year who having the cheek of the devil told Paul Thede directly he had bought a set and wasnt happy with how they worked, and how do I get them to work? Paul answered with the contempt it deserved. If there are other products in the pipework they will have to be okayed by MNZ first.

A word about Sam, we sold him a TTX36 we traded and re-spec'd to suit SV650, the end price was well under standard new price. Furthermore we traded his ''standard'' Ohlins shock . Thats ''rampant capitalism'' actually helping people! On that front better stuff is always in the pipeline.

Quote rulebook:

6. Modifications Allowed
a. The front fork inner (slide pipe stanchion) and the outer (outer stanchion) must
remain as per the original manufacturers OEM parts for that homologated model.
Damper Rods, fitment of emulators, springs and valving may be changed for
suspension timing purposes.
Complete cartridge replacement with non-OEM parts is not permitted.
Quality and quantity of oil in forks.
The height and position of the front fork in relation to the top yoke (fork crown) is
free.


Seems there plenty of room to experiment for any budding suspension tech. To my mind the whole emulator thing has created way more problems than it has fixed. People are purchasing bikes with the emulators removed but the fork tubes drilled etc.

Did Oyster get his emulators approved?

You know as well as others the limitations of the Racetech emulators. It was only going to be a matter of time before people started looking for better 'emulator' solutions.

Sam got a good deal on a TTX36 good on him!

[Robert Taylor]

If all else fails you could just take the tread off topic in a vain attempt to bury the posts that people that don't live on here might have a chance of reading....

ON TOPIC. I note that most if not all of the road racers I kick around with have no inclination to Go Slow and Very Readily embrace new settings and techniques to go faster. Or conversely they very much do not subscribe to GoingSlowVeryReadily. (you may abbreviate that to capitals ) If you have sponsors they usually want to see commitment and performance. There are those that contribute something and those that grizzle, I prefer the former category.

[GSVR]

Ok, lets say somehow the stock shock was able to be modied to work as well as your TTX in terms of laptimes. It would undoubtedly fade within a handful of laps and turn to jelly, greatly increasing the chance of crashing. Its also about stability of performance. I will answer SVRs take on this subject tonight because apples arent being always compared with apples and people have to move with the times.

I ask why the stock shock has to produce as good a lap times as the TTX? As long as everyones got the same same shock things will be alot closer.

Conditions change on the track all the time. When it rains more people fall off. Its all about learning to ride to the conditions. If your suspension isn't state of the art you just end up riding it to its limitations like everything else on the bike.

Maybe SVs should get slipper clutches fitted as well! In the interests of safety of course!

[Robert Taylor]

and yet (according to documentation signed by none less than helen and proudly displayed on your wall) you have lifetime membership to the labour party comrade?

OFF TOPIC...after 9 dark years of messing with NZ ''it'' is off to the United Nations where ''it'' can feel comfotable with ''its'' communist friends and spread ''its'' poison further. Good riddance to the ugly bitch! In line with her socialist roots it is to be hoped she has compassion for her fellow man and actually give away some of her fortune, as is readily done by our new Priminister.
Hopefully now I have diverted attention and satisfied petty small mindedness.

[Robert Taylor]

I ask why the stock shock has to produce as good a lap times as the TTX? As long as everyones got the same same shock things will be alot closer.

Conditions change on the track all the time. When it rains more people fall off. Its all about learning to ride to the conditions. If your suspension isn't state of the art you just end up riding it to its limitations like everything else on the bike.

Maybe SVs should get slipper clutches fitted as well! In the interests of safety of course!

Sorry Gary its not worth arguing with you and as ever you just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself. Give it up.l

[GSVR]

ON TOPIC. I note that most if not all of the road racers I kick around with have no inclination to Go Slow and Very Readily embrace new settings and techniques to go faster. Or conversely they very much do not subscribe to GoingSlowVeryReadily. (you may abbreviate that to capitals ) If you have sponsors they usually want to see commitment and performance. There are those that contribute something and those that grizzle, I prefer the former category.

I'm all for classes that go to the best avalaible technology but I'm also aware you need other classes that are accessable to riders that want to compete at a lower level.

I sometimes wonder if some people are in the sport for the love of it or the possiblity of financial return.

[Shaun]

I ask why the stock shock has to produce as good a lap times as the TTX? As long as everyones got the same same shock things will be alot closer.

Conditions change on the track all the time. When it rains more people fall off. Its all about learning to ride to the conditions. If your suspension isn't state of the art you just end up riding it to its limitations like everything else on the bike.

Maybe SVs should get slipper clutches fitted as well! In the interests of safety of course!

Or maybe the ones that have them in there bikes NOW should remove them

[Shaun]

Yep, even have got friends like you that subscribe to misguided socialism!

Go on then, name them

[GSVR]

Sorry Gary its not worth arguing with you and as ever you just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself. Give it up.l

OK I will but only on here as its far more effective disscussing this shit at the track to people that are actually affected by it.

[Shaun]

OK I will but only on here as its far more effective disscussing this shit at the track to people that are actually affected by it.

Are you a racer your self or a team helper?

[Robert Taylor]

Go on then, name them

On here at quick recollection yourself, Mishy and Rcktfish. All misguided on that score but likable!

[Shaun]

On here at quick recollection yourself, Mishy and Rcktfish. All misguided on that score but likable!

Misguided? Me? why?

[GSVR]

Are you a racer your self or a team helper?

I was a spectator but only really used to go to watch Stroudy race.

[Shaun]

I was a spectator but only really used to go to watch Stroudy race.

Obviously a true race fan then. I as just wondering as I am NOT really sure what it is that you either do, or Do not agree with.