Why is there a negative attitude on KB towards MCs?

[KiwiKat]

In Kiwiland MC = gang (most of the time)

Now that's Crap!

[peasea]

You don't. The clever drug lords create or adopt the "MC" and their image to do their work/intimidation for them. More often than not they also let their underlings take their beatings or do their jail time.

I think it actually stands for 'Mug Club'

Oh really?

[scumdog]

Now that's Crap!

OK, I'll re-phrase that for the sensetive:

In Kiwiland most PATCHED M/C = gang. (most of the time)

(seeing as the o/p use to wear a patch of some sort)

[Winston001]

And so, where do you draw the line between gang/mc?

Not sure I understand your question because I haven't noticed the attitude mentioned.

Generally anyone who belongs to a motorcycle "club" and wears a patch with rockers, belongs to a gang. That is what I interpret when you say MC. The group are contemptuous of the law and other motorcyclists.

Individually, many are likeable, reasonable people to know. The problem arises when they are with their mates and need to be staunch.

Rightly or wrongly wearing a patch is an invitation for intense scrutiny by the police and rival gang members.

If there are gentle middle-class patched MC groups in NZ.......I've never seen them but I could be quite wrong.

[peasea]

Now that's Crap!

I agree, sometimes, yes, not mostly......

Just because some self righteous cocks think that a patch means trouble it often creates trouble.

You're a Maori, therefore you're trouble.
Your're a Pom, you moan a lot.
You're a South African, you have stash of diamonds.
You're a biker with a patch, therefore you're scum.

It's generally propaganda. Sure, there's an element of truth to all legends and myths, but extrapolation appears to be the calling card of late. For example: the scene in Nelson at the moment. However, reality is far removed from the media hype.

The local M/C, (The Lost Breed) have spoken out.....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/2...-gang-concerns

I would guess that those who take motorcycles seriously will just get on with the enjoyment of their chosen hobby. I sure will.

I went to the drags today at Motueka. I know members of the Red Devils were there, members of the Lost Breed were also there. No drama took place. It was a primo day enjoyed by all, with drag racing (including some very stout performances from bikers who rode all makes) being the main objective.

M/C members and non M/C members should unite to rid our nation of 'other' scourges and not bicker amongst themselves.

[McJim]

M/C members and non M/C members should unite to rid our nation of 'other' scourges and not bicker amongst themselves.

We can't - the patched ones always try to beat up the unpatched ones when we try to be friends.

[Conquiztador]

M/C members and non M/C members should unite to rid our nation of 'other' scourges and not bicker amongst themselves.

Never a more tru sentence spoken!

Bikers have more important issues to focus on then deviding our self in groups who of some obscure reason can not associate.

[peasea]

We can't - the patched ones always try to beat up the unpatched ones when we try to be friends.

Ya what?
Try to? Who did what to who when all this went down? Where?

What are you talking about?

[fire eyes]

I didn't realise they were looked down on .. I must have missed those threads.

Being here in Oz I have been contemplating joining a MC, for a number of reasons .. a significant one being I do not know many bikers that I can hook into over here and tag along with when I get my wheels, I do not have a partner who can teach or mentor me, I am pretty much on my own.

I heard about a MC through a work collegue and attended a club meeting about a week ago.

The club was born from the need to spread the awareness and education about child abuse, they utilize thier love of bikes to raise money and awareness. (I personally support the cause, and think it's a fantastic way of becoming pro-active.)

It was quite hardcase though because upon initial impressions they do come across like a bike gang .. long beards/cruisers/leathers/patches. Even the club house situated in the middle of nowhere had me a little unsure about what to expect (found out its situated in Hells Angels territory but HA leave the club alone because of the work they do) But sitting through thier meeting, hearing what they actually do, blew my mind and got the big thumbs up from me.

They have serious bike gang issues in Oz .. definitely not something I want to get tangled up in .. but my attitude about MC's have changed .. really I think if your interested in one ... attend a meet & greet or a club meeting and actually see what they are about .. MC's are not for everyone and that's ok to .. as for KBers downing MC's .. well I have resigned myself to the fact that negative attributions actually come part & parcel with KB .. still makes for interesting reading no less.

Ohh and if anyone gives me shit about wanting to join a MC .. unless you are prepared to move your arse over here and teach me all I need to know about riding you can just fk up and that is said with love.

[peasea]

Never a more tru sentence spoken!

Bikers have more important issues to focus on then deviding our self in groups who of some obscure reason can not associate.

You're one of many thousands who would relish unity.

Cheers big ears.

[Conquiztador]

We can't - the patched ones always try to beat up the unpatched ones when we try to be friends.

Perhaps your attitude might have a part here? After 23 years in NZ w/o a patch I have yet to meet a patched rider who wants to beat me up.

[scumdog]

Bikers have more important issues to focus on then deviding our self in groups who of some obscure reason can not associate.

About time somebody told some of the Aussie m/c types that...

[peasea]

About time somebody told some of the Aussie m/c types that...

Get on a plane, big boy.

[scumdog]

Get on a plane, big boy.

In best 21st century Kiwi manner: "Not MY job".

[TLMAN]

I went to the drags today at Motueka. I know members of the Red Devils were there, members of the Lost Breed were also there. No drama took place. It was a primo day enjoyed by all, with drag racing (including some very stout performances from bikers who rode all makes) being the main objective.

P dealing took place.....