Bored kids

[dpex]

I like the idea, but don't think it will work.

They'll probably go there, ride far slower than they believe they could and blame the bike or just learn that bikes are not for them and go back to doing exactly the same thing they where doing with their cars. And if one of them happens to be a talented one and rides at a decent pace, he will believe himself the new god of speed and go at suicidal speeds on his car forever.

That's how I see it.


P.S. I know this is none of my business, but feel in the need to ask: Are you ready to live with it if one of this kids breaks his neck while riding your bike?

Jesus! But who are you? Is your daddy the head of OSH or ACC?

The very reason this society is so messed up is the lack of opportunity for real challenges. EVERYTHING has to be SAFE! Bugger me! These days ya can't even wack-off without some 'safety' mistress asserts you need a fucking condom, just in cae you got 'things' on your fingers.

Whomsoever gets to ride on the day will be well briefed by the AMCC troops. And my guess is that Vince and his men will be watching real close.

If one or more bins, then they bin. Christ knows, I'm the king of bins, and i'm still here to record it.

But many riders have ended up getting hurt. They knew that could happen before they rode. They didn't want it to happen, but shit happens. You either stay in bed and get bed-sores, or you expose yourself to some shit.

Get a life, buddy!

[dpex]

Bloody brilliant. Your right about the now OSH enviornment, which I believe has gone ever so slightly mad. Granted things go faster in general these days, bikes, cars, running men, food, mail (electronic), and babies born after 1997 are now call the Post Net Babies, cause they have never been in a world without the internet.
Taking a risk on others like this is the best pay it forward I have seen for a while, (even though you state you are putting back into others what you have already gotten out of life). And these are young men who are most likely used to being told they cant, not, they can.
Motorcycling is a great leveller, and can bridge wide gaps in our society. This small (or not so small and definately significant) gesture of yours could start something fantastic and grow into an organised opportunity for others less fortunate. Well done, bling sent

BLOODY WELL STATED, my man. That's exactly the picture I have in mind. Thank you.

[dpex]

Some people actually do give a fuck - and so so their parents (well the good parents at least) - it can end well, but sometimes the lackadaisical approach can end up having life changing impacts (and not in a good way).

From the post they sould like they were young males - If thats the arse you are after, well, each to their own.

What a vile wee mind you have. If a cannibal split your head open to gain access to the contents I imagine he would find just enough green matter to cover a small water biscuit, and even then the taste would be foul.

[dpex]

I think it's great!!

It puts kids in a position where dicking around has dire consequences, and could be an object lesson for life.

So much of our society today goes towards softening consequences of stupidity, that it doesn't matter if you're a dick anymore, because "society" will wipe your arse after you.

Good on ya! : Hopefully they get afew scares, and then you can use it as an object lesson for other areas of life, like studying, and working, and not spending their lives being doped up etc...

Sure, a few scares will come as a natural result of being on a strange bike, in a strange envirnoment, with a lot of ego playing tricks, and line-marshals...waiting ahead. :--))))

But I figure that after maybe two laps of Puke, a few lights will have switched on, a great deal will have been learned and, therefore, Kieth's concept of where to spend the ten bucks will come into play. Then the kids will go a bit harder but a bit smarter, too.

Can you remember coming into the pits after your very first track-day round?

Jesus, but I can. Frosty was there asking why I never got out of second gear, and laughing as he asked. But Jesus I felt unbelievably good.

How many kids out there ever get the opportunity to feel unbelievably good for something they have done as opposed to something they have smoked or sniffed?

[dpex]

Dpex you have the right idea but wrong place and wrong bike.
Get em out at the sandpit on a trail bike. truck loads harder to bend and the sense of speed at 80k in the forest is similar to 150 on the road.
Incidently the pastor that married me and Jorja thinks like you -Hes doing exacttly that with trail bikes

Yeah, I got the smart-arsed blink about being the KB pastor. Well, fuck him.

I take your point, bud, but the fact is these kids see tar-seal as their place.

However, I'm always open to being proven wrong. How's about you and me set up such a day on your little patch. I'm up for that.

[dpex]

i have a job.i have qualifications.i work hard.

as a reward for all that,i have 5 motorcycles,and i can go to a bloody trackday(and often do BTW)when ever i damn well please.

That is the correct reward for being a hard working law abiding member of society.

If thats boring,well i guess i will happily be bored to death.

I absolutely respect your position Gamma. I, also, am a believer in Plato and Ayn Rand.

But, the fact remains; so many are not. And until someone makes some sort of effort to show them the way, then they remain forever blind.

Clearly, you either had good parents or some other influence enabled you to grasp the proper nettle. All I'm trying to do here is offer te nettle. Whether the 'boys' grasp it or not is beyond postulation. But if three don't but see a new vision, and one does, (at least in round one of this idea) then I'll feel pretty good about that.

[dpex]

Fantastic, I am truely glad that things are going well for you. I know for a lot of people that there is no way they coudl afford the gear to try a track day to see if it is something they would be interested in and what the OP is trying with these people is a chance to try something that could give them every chance to addicted to a safe way to sate their need for speed.

Certainly his choice of people can seem unfair to those who have worked hard for everything and have a great ethos on life. But then some people if given a chance to make a change for good do make a change for good, it may happen with these kids - it may not, at least he tried.

Personally I would love to see most of the boy racers given a chance to get involved in something like this. Pay your fee for the day, rent some gear have a blast and perhaps make the roads that little bit safer. Sure some will say they will just go out and try going the same speed on the roads but then people will do that given any chance. Should we ban all racing and car/bike movies from TV too?

Perhaps with a little guidance some of these little s**ts can get to see a direct link between cause and effect - you go too fast you risk getting hurt, and risk hurting others. Hell even if they do act like a**holes and speed anyway perhaps what they learn on the track will be just enough to keep them on the correct side of the road and save an innocent family. (not that I condone this sort of behaviour, just trying to stay positive).

Bloody well said, that man! Thank you.

[short-circuit]

Dpex - what your response to Dangerous Bastard? Do you hope to get some "Arse out of it"?

[dpex]

I have had fabulous opportunity in my life. Many have not been so lucky.

Some years ago I used to run PD gangs at a school, at which I was the unpaid caretaker.

After many weeks of trying illicit one entire sentence from one particularly huge and clearly angry, massive man (he was at least six-five and weighed well over 250KG) I finally got him talking.

Thereafter, each saturday we would find a time to sit and yak. One day, having asked him what his childhood was like, great tears slid down his cheeks as he said, 'When I was a kid, if I ever made it to the morning with my pants on, I had had a really good night.'

Hey listen, I'm not on some sort of evangelical trip here. I'm just in a position to put a bit back where others have not/could not/don't want to, etc.

If they fuck the bike and/or fuck themselves, well, that's life.

[Renegade]

the world needs more people like you.

[mujambee]

Jesus! But who are you? Is your daddy the head of OSH or ACC?

Obviously not.

The very reason this society is so messed up is the lack of opportunity for real challenges. EVERYTHING has to be SAFE! Bugger me! These days ya can't even wack-off without some 'safety' mistress asserts you need a fucking condom, just in cae you got 'things' on your fingers.

Whomsoever gets to ride on the day will be well briefed by the AMCC troops. And my guess is that Vince and his men will be watching real close.

If one or more bins, then they bin. Christ knows, I'm the king of bins, and i'm still here to record it.

But many riders have ended up getting hurt. They knew that could happen before they rode. They didn't want it to happen, but shit happens. You either stay in bed and get bed-sores, or you expose yourself to some shit.

I'll take that as a yes.

Get a life, buddy!

Got one, thanks!

[Tank]

Some people actually do give a fuck - and so so their parents (well the good parents at least) - it can end well, but sometimes the lackadaisical approach can end up having life changing impacts (and not in a good way).

From the post they sould like they were young males - If thats the arse you are after, well, each to their own.

What a vile wee mind you have. If a cannibal split your head open to gain access to the contents I imagine he would find just enough green matter to cover a small water biscuit, and even then the taste would be foul.

So what makes me vile you self righteous little man? Was it the fact that I said some parents actually do give a fuck? I know I do - and I guess thats why I have three great kids.

Was it that I said a lackadaisical approach can end badly?? - well - Lets say you didnt take precautions and a kid died on the track. What happens ????

Was it my comment about the arse - was that it???? I was simply replying to a post where DB stated you may get arse out of it. Given that it sounded like it was young boys you were talking about in the original post I guessed it was him after the boys.

But hey - you are the bloke laying the spade work with the young fella - you get first dibs.

Yeah, I got the smart-arsed blink about being the KB pastor. Well, fuck him.

He had a point - but it wasnt me.

edit - fuck it - have red blingged you now.

[Tank]

Dpex - what your response to Dangerous Bastard? Do you hope to get some "Arse out of it"?

He hates the competition?

[piston broke]

The question is. Do you think I'm barking up the madman's tree?

yep.

wouldn't it be better to get yourself a bucket racer and let them have a go?

it will be a lot cheaper,and won't ruin your bike.

+1000r though

[jaymzw]

Interesting,

You both have quite "grown up views" for KiwiBiker, by that i mean going by both Tank and Dpex's usual posts, they arn't the usual shit throwers, and always have a well formed opinion on most things here.

Yet in this thread Tank has foul tasting brain matter and Dpex is a Self-righteous little man.

Someone can't take critisism.

I think Tank's point is deffinitely valid. He wasn't taking a knock at your idea, as we all know your intentions are well, just pointing out a few obstacles that could have