What's this I spy?

[Robert Taylor]

Yeap I told you you where looking bigger a year or so ago! Lay off the pies! So hows the injuries are you almost ready to rock and roll again?

Perhaps a compromise to this situation would be to let phat phuckers and skinny shits get there shocks revalved and then at the first round of the nationals have them marked in a way (paint seal etc) that no further fiddling could be done without application to MNZ.

Heard a few opinions at the CD trackday today. Some for some against the proposed rules.

And pray tell how many of those people had a deep understanding of chassis / suspension / tyre interaction ???????????
Very often the rules are made / voted on by people with not enough understanding, FACT.

[Robert Taylor]

Great ideas people, but the question I would ask is:

Are you just letting off steam here on this site or is all these comments being forwarded to the people who have asked for input prior to making changes.

What makes you sure that MNZ are monitoring what is being said.
We know the CEO is, because he has had goes at posters in the past, but whether anyone else is, is questionable

How many of you have passed your thoughts onto MNZ, because if you don't, they will do what they think, rather than what you want.

So have your say on here, but also send your thoughts to vicky@mnz.co.nz so she can forward them to the rules committee.

The same applies to VOTING, If you don't Vote in the MNZ Elections, don't complain later

Yes, apparently its rubbish according to the said person.

[Robert Taylor]

Yeap I told you you where looking bigger a year or so ago! Lay off the pies! So hows the injuries are you almost ready to rock and roll again?

Perhaps a compromise to this situation would be to let phat phuckers and skinny shits get there shocks revalved and then at the first round of the nationals have them marked in a way (paint seal etc) that no further fiddling could be done without application to MNZ.

Heard a few opinions at the CD trackday today. Some for some against the proposed rules.

If every single race was on the same circuit with the same conditions then yes the same internal spec would suffice. But such a proposal is naive to the reality of nowadays such bikes are sensitive to different circuits. This is not 1970. an age of flimsy frames, wooden tyres, no power and no suspension.

[JayRacer37]

Hey Jay

I hear your dad has left Darbi's? And your bike and gear is being sold? sounds a good deal with all the stuff that goes with it.

Yeah,

Bike as I last raced it with ALL the kit (tyre warmers, spare wheels...everything but the van to take it to the track!) is for sale, check out the trading section of KB for the ad. Dad has moved on, not sure what he is going to do now, no doubt he will pop up somewhere.

[JayRacer37]

Yeap I told you you where looking bigger a year or so ago! Lay off the pies! So hows the injuries are you almost ready to rock and roll again?

I looked bigger cos a year ago I had my last growth spurt - I went from being a weedy kid to quite a bit taller and broader (SHOULDERS-not just gut...). Since the injury I have put on weight as I havn't done any training. Getting better but still not allowed to race, am looking at getting a road bike to at least have some bike time soon though.

[GSVR]

I looked bigger cos a year ago I had my last growth spurt - I went from being a weedy kid to quite a bit taller and broader (SHOULDERS-not just gut...). Since the injury I have put on weight as I havn't done any training. Getting better but still not allowed to race, am looking at getting a road bike to at least have some bike time soon though.

Sounded like a really nasty accident. Good to hear your getting better. The Yamaha is probably the best of the 600s at the moment so this would be a great deal for anyone in the market for a supersport racebike.

[svr]

And pray tell how many of those people had a deep understanding of chassis / suspension / tyre interaction ???????????
Very often the rules are made / voted on by people with not enough understanding, FACT.

They're called `riders', Robert.

[Robert Taylor]

They're called `riders', Robert.

That is simplistic to the reality and you know what I was trying to say. There are riders who have a good understanding re the whole chassis / suspension and tyre interaction thing. There are inevitably many newer riders ( and I in no way say this in a derisory way ) that dont understand the dynamics and therefore their 2 cents worth is much less ''accurate''. That is similiar to saying youd rather have the qualified and experienced guy work on your valuable equipment rather than the raw apprentice.

[svr]

There are inevitably many newer riders ( and I in no way say this in a derisory way ) that dont understand the dynamics and therefore their 2 cents worth is much less ''accurate''

Its not a perfect system!

[Robert Taylor]

Great ideas people, but the question I would ask is:

Are you just letting off steam here on this site or is all these comments being forwarded to the people who have asked for input prior to making changes.

What makes you sure that MNZ are monitoring what is being said.
We know the CEO is, because he has had goes at posters in the past, but whether anyone else is, is questionable

How many of you have passed your thoughts onto MNZ, because if you don't, they will do what they think, rather than what you want.

So have your say on here, but also send your thoughts to vicky@mnz.co.nz so she can forward them to the rules committee.

The same applies to VOTING, If you don't Vote in the MNZ Elections, don't complain later

The position of MNZ President is a no brainer, vote for Jim Tuckerman. He is a feet on the ground type of guy who puts a lot of effort into helping run the road race series. He is there beavering away, how often do you evidence the encumbent being at the coalface of meetings?
If Jim gets elected he will also pull the reins in of a runaway horse and restore democracy and reasoned decision making within that organisation.

[cs363]

The position of MNZ President is a no brainer.

Sorry.....was that deliberate???

[cowpoos]

And pray tell how many of those people had a deep understanding of chassis / suspension / tyre interaction ???????????
Very often the rules are made / voted on by people with not enough understanding, FACT.

Yes, apparently its rubbish according to the said person.

If every single race was on the same circuit with the same conditions then yes the same internal spec would suffice. But such a proposal is naive to the reality of nowadays such bikes are sensitive to different circuits. This is not 1970. an age of flimsy frames, wooden tyres, no power and no suspension.

there is a function to quote multiple people in one post...

On the persons post you want to quote, there is a link called 'multi' click that and then carry on reading thread...if you see another post worthy of attention...click multi again...and so forth...and once you have decided to have you opinion...click quote on one of the said posts...and it will quote them all in the one hit

Clever aye!!

[Pussy]

there is a function to quote multiple people in one post...

On the persons post you want to quote, there is a link called 'multi' click that and then carry on reading thread...if you see another post worthy of attention...click multi again...and so forth...and once you have decided to have you opinion...click quote on one of the said posts...and it will quote them all in the one hit

Clever aye!!

Poos, IT geek!

Actually, thanks for that, I didn't have a clue how that worked either!!

[cowpoos]

Poos, IT geek!

Actually, thanks for that, I didn't have a clue how that worked either!!

well...at times...Robert does abit of passionate posting...and it can take up near a half a page...so thought I would forward an efficient way of replying..and as he is a great lover of efficient [and very functional] engineering...I though he may see the advantages of my suggestion

[Pussy]

well...at times...Robert does abit of passionate posting...and it can take up near a half a page...so thought I would forward an efficient way of replying..and as he is a great lover of efficient [and very functional] engineering...I though he may see the advantages of my suggestion

I concur, Dr Poos!