MNZ elections?

[suzuki mama]

Where are the voting papers? why cant we vote on line, all those people in office surely someone knows where a post box is!

last year we were told they were sent out by a direct mailing firm, so apparently there is no one in office capable of collating this and getting it out to members on time.

or is the late arrival just another sneaky plot to keep voting fiqures low.?

in years gone by repected life members oversaw voting ,you could do by mail and at AGM AND VOTES CAST WERE VERIFIED.
ANY OTHER CLUB CONSIDERING THIS SHOULD BE DONE AT AGM AND THE VOTES NOT SIMPLY DESTROYED After all they are no longer secret as your rider number on them .
How legal is that?

This would remove lingering doubts some of us have over the election process in recent years.

given the constant interference by Huntly and some in our club are of the opinion the office thinks its MNZ AND NOT THE MEMBERS,

inTHINGS THE OFFICE SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERING WITH.the feeling is the watch word of this AGM should be.
putting things right ,openess and honesty

[Robert Taylor]

Where are the voting papers? why cant we vote on line, all those people in office surely someone knows where a post box is!

last year we were told they were sent out by a direct mailing firm, so apparently there is no one in office capable of collating this and getting it out to members on time.

or is the late arrival just another sneaky plot to keep voting fiqures low.?

in years gone by repected life members oversaw voting ,you could do by mail and at AGM AND VOTES CAST WERE VERIFIED.
ANY OTHER CLUB CONSIDERING THIS SHOULD BE DONE AT AGM AND THE VOTES NOT SIMPLY DESTROYED After all they are no longer secret as your rider number on them .
How legal is that?

This would remove lingering doubts some of us have over the election process in recent years.

given the constant interference by Huntly and some in our club are of the opinion the office thinks its MNZ AND NOT THE MEMBERS,

inTHINGS THE OFFICE SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERING WITH.the feeling is the watch word of this AGM should be.
putting things right ,openess and honesty

Demonstrably certain people within that organisation have no respect for democratic process and common etiquette.

[Maido]

Where are the voting papers? why cant we vote on line, all those people in office surely someone knows where a post box is!

last year we were told they were sent out by a direct mailing firm, so apparently there is no one in office capable of collating this and getting it out to members on time.

or is the late arrival just another sneaky plot to keep voting fiqures low.?

in years gone by repected life members oversaw voting ,you could do by mail and at AGM AND VOTES CAST WERE VERIFIED.
ANY OTHER CLUB CONSIDERING THIS SHOULD BE DONE AT AGM AND THE VOTES NOT SIMPLY DESTROYED After all they are no longer secret as your rider number on them .
How legal is that?

This would remove lingering doubts some of us have over the election process in recent years.

given the constant interference by Huntly and some in our club are of the opinion the office thinks its MNZ AND NOT THE MEMBERS,

inTHINGS THE OFFICE SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERING WITH.the feeling is the watch word of this AGM should be.
putting things right ,openess and honesty

What did MNZ say about this when you emailed or rung them?

[sharky]

Just got mine in the mail today.

[Tony.OK]

I got 2 lots today, along with the 08 annual report. Some very interesting figures in there.
Reading PP's report ya definately get the feeling that MX is more important.

[suzuki mama]

On contacting was told several days ago they would be out on 15th of this month ,
Ours havnt arrived yet but have been rung and told some in club have.
It appears but will wait to really comment till i see them that initial impressions are -
1 - Creative accounting again
2- Why has Brian Davidsons name been left out of list of officials for second year.
3- Castrol actually paid serious money for Road racing and have the smallest thank you -is it because road race commisioner arranged the sponsorship himself and pp couldnt get a percentage for himself like other years
4-lots of comment about changing the dealing with disputes and code of conduct violations really not waving a brief case at a rider and common sense appeals to me
5-Evidently neither the President nor the Ceo could bring themselves to acknowledge Paul Stewarts contribution to our sport
6-everyone look at who spent what in expenses
and mind boggling but will relie on seeing it myself ,did we really spend 300k+
on staff salaries .

[Tony.OK]

6-everyone look at who spent what in expenses
and mind boggling but will relie on seeing it myself ,did we really spend 300k+
on staff salaries .

$306662.00 to be precise, thats cool though when ya see how much went to road racing............................................ .................................................. .................................................. ............................$10159.00

[suzuki mama]

MNZ PULLED ITS MONEY FOR ROAD RACING AND DIDNT CONTRIBUTE THIS YEAR ALTHOUGH I HEAR THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE TV THAT WAS PAID FOR BY THE DISTRIBUTORS I UNDERSTAND SO WHAT WAS THE VAST SUM OF 10t USED ON ?
CERTAINLY WASNT MEDIA AS MY MAN HEARD PP WAS ONLY PAYING FOR 1 POST AND ONE PRE RACE RELEASE AND JIM T DID ALL THE RADIO BREAK OUTS FOR FREE AS WELL AS GETTING RACING ONTO TV NEWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AT NO COST COULD BE WRONG BUT DONT THINK SO .

hOW MUCH MONEY DID MNZ PUT INTO MOTOR CROSS? ALSO THE ROAD RACE WEBSITE NOT FUNDED BY MNZ

[Robert Taylor]

MNZ PULLED ITS MONEY FOR ROAD RACING AND DIDNT CONTRIBUTE THIS YEAR ALTHOUGH I HEAR THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE TV THAT WAS PAID FOR BY THE DISTRIBUTORS I UNDERSTAND SO WHAT WAS THE VAST SUM OF 10t USED ON ?
CERTAINLY WASNT MEDIA AS MY MAN HEARD PP WAS ONLY PAYING FOR 1 POST AND ONE PRE RACE RELEASE AND JIM T DID ALL THE RADIO BREAK OUTS FOR FREE AS WELL AS GETTING RACING ONTO TV NEWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AT NO COST COULD BE WRONG BUT DONT THINK SO .

hOW MUCH MONEY DID MNZ PUT INTO MOTOR CROSS? ALSO THE ROAD RACE WEBSITE NOT FUNDED BY MNZ

Yep, and I can tell you for free that MX people are not very happy with the current dictatorship.

[roadracingoldfart]

Demonstrably certain people within that organisation have no respect for democratic process and common etiquette.

Yer Robert , and they bloody dress funny too

Democracy = bending over for money since ages ago



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[eelracing]

Reading PP's report ya definately get the feeling that MX is more important.

MX is MNZ's cash cow at this time as the number of competitors is huge compared to roadracing.Cost (ie compared to roadracing)and the availability of competitive machinery to young and old has got to be a factor in this regard.

Im still waiting for my forms.

[Patch]

hOW MUCH MONEY DID MNZ PUT INTO MOTOR CROSS? ALSO THE ROAD RACE WEBSITE NOT FUNDED BY MNZ

why any of you continue to put up with the shit of MNZ management - assuming everything that has been posted is true and correct with substantial basis.


Perhaps a meeting of members MX & RR is called for without management in attendance. I'm sure enough members have the suitable qualifications (in their 'jobs') to organise/advertise/note such a meeting to constructively detail an effective method of fixing all the general complaints.


What is an organisation without members?

[suzuki mama]

Yeah the voting papers arrived, little confused ,4 registered members ie have licences ,7 packs arrived,
Absolutely no profiles about candidates except of course the presidents report with lovely photo.
the reports i received were not wrong!!!!
why should we accept these accounts, we wouldnt do it in our own Business especially love how.
MNZ MADE A PROFIT BECAUSE LAND REVALUED,
IS THAT ACTUAL CASH IN THE BANK?
The word smoke screen comes to mind when reading both the Presidents and CEOS reports.
Paul P.should really know who sponsered what, i think i rode at a suzuki event he says Castrol main sponser!!!
Castrol actually came up with cash for road racing and gave product etc contra i think its called for other event,
Of course Demon Energy got huge thanks why wouldnt they be delighted gave least to get naming rights
As to the charter the Chow has it right ,we dont need one just a properly functioning Board ,President and Ceo,
Interesting every time MNZ IS IN THE GUN OFFICE AND BOARD ,SOMETHING IS DRUMMED UP TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM REAL ISSUES.
wE ALL REMEMBER THE MOB MENTALITY THAT WAS DRUMMED UP OVER A MOTOR CROSS INCIDENT,Going off to read in full

[Shorty_925]

anyone notice that licence income has more or less stayed the same as well, and day licences have gone down? People not bothering to race anymore with track days and trail rides that are out there?

[steveyb]

3- Castrol actually paid serious money for Road racing and have the smallest thank you -is it because road race commisioner arranged the sponsorship himself and pp couldnt get a percentage for himself like other years

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