Child support?

[MadDuck]

Had a staff member over the last couple of weeks has had HIS visitation rights taken away by his ex. Now this guy is a loving father and wants to spend time with his son. Used to have the boy on equal time and paid for him while he was in his care.

It turned nasty with the ex and this week we get a notice telling us to take $$$xxxx from his pay from the IRD. Now this is based purely on % of his income. Nothing to do with his current mortgage and commitments or how much it actually costs to raise a child.

Its not that he doesnt want to pay but it seems that poor joe on the benefit has to pay way less than someone who is working for a living. This guy made a comment to me along the lines of "why work to better yourself if the IRD want to take it all"

Has anyone ever challenged a Child Support deduction? How easy or tough is it? I dont want to get into a he is wrong she is right. He wants to see the lad.

[Mom]

My advice to your worker would be ask for a review. Wont make a blind bit of difference though. His ex will be on the DPB. As a consequence of that he has been named father to the kids. As a non custodial parent he has to pay 18%(minimum) of his wages to the IRD regardless of his own personal situation.

Some non custodial parents have been about beggared by their Child Support payments DAMHIK.

[MadDuck]

That what has me a bit annoyed. So it takes 18% of your income to support a child.

Doesnt matter if you earn $20k a year or $100k a year. Its still 18%. I dont get it.

[98tls]

Would make sense that a guy on the benefit pays less than a guy working i suppose but what about the "working for familys" facade,wouldnt that cover all?Seems ironic that the IRD are demanding money from him that works whilst at the same time everyone else that works is donating to the upbringing of this countrys youth theres or not,how much more can be needed?

[FJRider]

Tell HIM to sue for custody of the child. He goes on the benefit... she pays him... from hers...

[MadDuck]

He is more than willing to pay a fair amount and doesnt want to put the boy through the trauma of a custody battle. He is not trying to avoid his responsibilities but how can it be fair that it is income based?

He has three other children to a new marriage and they will also now suffer hugely.

[FJRider]

He is more than willing to pay a fair amount and doesnt want to put the boy through the trauma of a custody battle. He is not trying to avoid his responsibilities but how can it be fair that it is income based?

He has three other children to a new marriage and they will also now suffer hugely.

It is fair that every non-custodial parent... is in exactly the same position.... shafted by IRD.

Like it or lump it... it is law. IRD are not known for their flexability..

[Trumpess]

He needs to ask for a review MD.
He has other dependants with his lady and kids.
And if he has a mortgage, they take that into consideration aswell in his living expenses, which is only a certian amount.
Its a rigmarole to go through, but it is worth it in the long run.
Some peoples payments are extreme!

[MadDuck]

Like it or lump it... it is law.

Maybe its about time for a change now we have gotten rid of the touchy feely pc shitty labour gummint.

[FJRider]

WOT SHE SAID... worth a shot. Use the system...

[FJRider]

Maybe its about time for a change now we have gotten rid of the touchy feely pc shitty labour gummint.

You think the "new" crew will be any different, I don't...

[MadDuck]

You think the "new" crew will be any different, I don't...

Oppps didnt want this to become a political debate as such. BUT yes I bloody well hope so! OR I wouldnt have voted for them

[Howie]

Hi MadDuck, Have a look at the links on this page, has a lot of info about child support. http://www.ird.govt.nz/childsupport/

I am on the oppisite side of the child support battle, where I only get the min payment of about $70 a month as my ex isn't working, it is really a policy/ law that needs looking at and updating. I think you'll find he gets a living allowance of so many thousand depending on situation, then pays between 18-30% of earnings over that up to about $80,000 from memory. mind you I haven't looked into it for years.

[SMOKEU]

What really fucks me off is when stupid sluts breed like fucking rabbits and expect everyone else to pay for them while they sit on their lazy asses all day smoking pot and not even looking after the kid properly. Put the dick down, get a job and earn an honest living like the rest of us and pay for your own shit bitch.

[White trash]

As a single male, everything he earns above (I think) twelve K will have to be paid @ 18% of his earnings. The first twelve grand is what IRD states should be a single mans living expenses. WTF?

Be thankfull the poor bugger doesn't have two kids, 24% then.

What really grinds my gears, and is a seperate issue but sort of related, is that if you want your kids to live with you full time as a bloke, the only way to get custody as primary care giver is to absolutely assasinate the mothers character and prove she's a bad mother. Doesn't matter that the kids would be better of and have a better quality of life living with their father, she's got to be an absolute shit of a crack whore before the courts will rule in favour of the father, and even that's no garuntee as a friend has recently found out.

I believe that if a father fights for the custody of his children due to concerns for their well being, and is denied by the courts, he should not have to pay child support.