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**NinjaBoy** · 17th August 2006, 23:03

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

If you get a ticket in Janurary 2004 for speeding, and say 35 points and you stay ticket free until December 2006 but receive another in December, the points you got in 2004 stay with you for another 2yrs. Once you've been clean for 2yrs your points get returned to zero.

Didn't know this rule. Thought that the original points would have disappeared but then I don't run that close to the limit.

Also North Island roads more heavily policed than South Islands, esp. on main highways

**RiderInBlack** · 18th August 2006, 08:17

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Also North Island roads more heavily policed than South Islands, esp. on main highways

Would debate that one. Depends on where in North Is or South Is ya are. When I visited Jantar is in Alexander (SI), he took me on a loop that passes the Brass Monkey site. There were so many cops (mainly un-marked cars, but a speed cam van or 2 and a patrol car) that I felt I could have walked around that route on them without setting foot on the tar (OK I'm exaggerating, but ya get the idea). My last trip to SI is the main reason for my purchase of a Radar Detector and was worth 60 demit points. There is plenty of Cops in SI. Ya just need ta know where ya can go to have a bit of fun. Get local advise on the best and worst roads as far as the patrolled thing goes (that would have saved me at least 40 points).

Lots of awesome roads up here in Northland (just ask us Norf Crew). JAFA's (one of the NZ nick for Aucklanders) tend ta have problems keeping they Jinxers on the road up here but

Can show ya lots a good roads with very little traffic and awesome scenery.
If ya really want ta find a cop up here the Ruakaka/Waupi Straights is where ya will find them (like seagulls at a rubbish dump). Don't speed along there unless ya like demerit points or have the right advanced warning equipment.

Have been a Nurse in NZ so can tell ya that they would snap up ya wife fairly quickly, but she will end-up with quite a pay cut.

**limbimtimwim** · 18th August 2006, 09:48

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

PMSL. I wish we could upsticks today mate, but my wife (understandably I guess) wants to see the place before we sell the house and everything else over here and make the move, and we can't afford to get over for a nosey round until after Christmas, so no move on the cards realistically for 12-18 months.

Though there are signs of a tapering off in the housing market, prices will continue to grow far beyond the rate of inflation. I was lucky enough to purchase a place at about $360K 2 years ago, now it's government valuation (GV) is $460K. GVs are done every 3 years.

What I am suggesting is you need keep the rate of increase in mind when looking at houses.

**ManDownUnder** · 18th August 2006, 10:35

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

If you get a ticket in Janurary 2004 for speeding, and say 35 points and you stay ticket free until December 2006 but receive another in December, the points you got in 2004 stay with you for another 2yrs. Once you've been clean for 2yrs your points get returned to zero.

Really?

I thought the points fell off when they were 2 years old, so in the incident above you'd have 35 points through till December when you got (say) an extra 35... so for Dec '05 you'd have 70, January you'd have 70 till the anniversary of your 1st ticket, when you'd drop back to 35 again

**Fat Tony** · 18th August 2006, 19:36

Originally Posted by limbimtimwim

Though there are signs of a tapering off in the housing market, prices will continue to grow far beyond the rate of inflation. I was lucky enough to purchase a place at about $360K 2 years ago, now it's government valuation (GV) is $460K. GVs are done every 3 years.

What I am suggesting is you need keep the rate of increase in mind when looking at houses.

Thanks for the advice mate. We recently had some property papers sent over and noticed how much prices had risen since the last time we looked at the situation. Hopefully the slowing, but steady rise in house prices in the UK will keep up with yours - otherwise it's caravan life for us!

We bought for £102k five years ago, now valued at £225. It's crazy - we can't afford to buy our own house anymore. We were hoping that the equity from the sale of our house here would see us living with a fairly small mortgage in NZ but it's become very apparent that that isn't likely to be the case.

Hey, you can dream

**ogr1** · 18th August 2006, 20:14

My regular travelling up to 130mph in a very quiet, 60mph limit single carriage way may well end up with prison time if caught.

Do that in NZ get caught/banned/fined and probably deported.......

I bet the police can't wait for you to arrive and in typical British fashion YOU
will fook it up for thr rest of us Poms.

**Crisis management** · 18th August 2006, 20:26

Originally Posted by ogr1

I bet the police can't wait for you to arrive and in typical British fashion YOU
will fook it up for thr rest of us Poms.

I can see why you might want to leave England, Tony, generally the locals here are friendly....

**Fat Tony** · 18th August 2006, 20:39

Originally Posted by ogr1

My regular travelling up to 130mph in a very quiet, 60mph limit single carriage way may well end up with prison time if caught.

Do that in NZ get caught/banned/fined and probably deported.......

I bet the police can't wait for you to arrive and in typical British fashion YOU
will fook it up for thr rest of us Poms.

**Time and a place*** How can you comment when you don't know the roads in question? VERY little other traffic ever, and if there was I wouldn't ever consider riding at that speed. There's no footpaths, no side roads, no driveways, no houses for miles... what's your problem? Yes it's illegal - I'm aware of that - but I wouldn't consider it dangerous to either anybody else or myself. I'd consider the vehicles driving passed my daughter's school at 40mph in a 30mph zone, with loads of parked cars to be far more dangerous - an area that I wouldn't ever travel above 20mph.

Take it easy mate. I'm not an idiot on the road, and have a good deal of road sense and experience. I know when to show restraint and take a great deal of pride in my riding/driving.

And yes, I KNOW the correct time and place is on track, but finding £100+ regularly for track days doesn't come easy.

Now might I suggest that you go back to bed, and try getting out of the other side?

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Crisis management

I can see why you might want to leave England, Tony, generally the locals here are friendly....

LOL. Yes, UK society becomes more intollerent every day. I've noticed it in myself too I'm ashamed to say. Things that wouldn't have wound me up at all years ago do now

**limbimtimwim** · 18th August 2006, 21:21

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

And yes, I KNOW the correct time and place is on track, but finding £100+ regularly for track days doesn't come easy.

Yes, I had heard that track days got stupid expensive over there after the tracks realised they could make lots of money off them. Did you see the thread about the GSXR only track day? Gotta send off my form tomorrow, might miss out.

$30

But that is an especially good price. Last year the local bike club had one free for members, membership is $35

**Patrick** · 18th August 2006, 21:30

Misinformation is rife here too...

Demerits last for two years, from the date of enforcement (when the fine is paid, or acted on by the fines collections). Demerit from Jan 2004 expires Jan 2006, regardless of whatever more you pick up between the dates... get 100 points within 2 years = 3 months suspension. Supposed to be 100 within 1 year = loss of licence for 6 months, but that never happens. 3 months is all they give, going from experience.

Instant fines up to 50kmph over the limit get up to $630, but over 40kmph up to 50kmph over the limit (ie 91-99kmph in a 50 zone) you lose licence instantly for 28 days as well as the instant fines, which are calculated in 5kmph lots (ie 86-90km in 50 = $400...91-95 in 50 = $510, 96-99 in a 50 = $630)

Just to confuse things more, this only applies to the fixed speed signs. Temporary signs (like 30kmph roadworks), are only loss of licence times for over 50kmph over the limit, but the instant fines remain the same.

Over 50kmph over the limit is court time (ie 101+ in a 50 or 151+ kmph in a 100) for dangerous speed. Minimum loss of licence then is 6 months with fines determined by the courts. Yet to hear of anyone doing jail time for this.

Speed cameras do not carry demerits ( rumoured to be coming tho...).

Pick your time and places for "road tests." I do...

Others on here are not as careful, but jeez do we hear about it from em...

Cops are on this site too...

but we are sympathetic to the cause and offer advice all the time, even though we get more abuse here than from any piss fueled drunken knuckle dragger on a weekend in town...

As for the hookers... farken ugly. All fell out of the ugly tree and hit the branches face first all the way down...

As for the roads? Buy the motorcyclists maps of NZ... tells you of the places to go and see, rates the rides from 1 to 5 (even though the Whangamomona pub ride down these parts is a top 5 easily, they give it a 3... pfffttt

....and give the Rimatakas a 5 - a 3 at best...)

Watch this space... that'll get them Welly boys going...

**Fat Tony** · 18th August 2006, 21:34

Originally Posted by limbimtimwim

Yes, I had heard that track days got stupid expensive over there after the tracks realised they could make lots of money off them. Did you see the thread about the GSXR only track day? Gotta send off my form tomorrow, might miss out.

$30

Yeah, Hell I wish I was over there for that - what a 'hello, welcome to NZ' event that'd be, lol

Not really sure what the score is with trackdays over here. Several trackday companies went bust last year, so I imagine that most of the money goes directly to the track owners. A lot of the UK companies now seem to be specialising in track days in France and Spain where track ime is much better value for money.

A typical day at Donington Park will set you back around NZ$500, and Brands GP circuit is about NZ$660 - madness! Fortunately, the likes of Cadwell can still be had for about NZ$270 and that in my opinion is the best track in the country bar none

(not that I've ridden them all, lol)

**limbimtimwim** · 18th August 2006, 21:35

'Cept it is 40km/h over the limit now. Not 50km/h!

**Patrick** · 18th August 2006, 21:40

Originally Posted by limbimtimwim

'Cept it is 40km/h over the limit now. Not 50km/h!

Read my post.... again...

**Fat Tony** · 18th August 2006, 21:42

Originally Posted by Patrick

Cops are on this site too...

but we are sympathetic to the cause and offer advice all the time, even though we get more abuse here than from any piss fueled drunken knuckle dragger on a weekend in town...

LOL. I ride with a couple of (off duty) bike cops occasionally - top blokes and hell they can shift. I know you're not all evil

Cheers for the clarification on the demerit system - does sound kind of complicated, and yeah I reckon you're lucky to get away without demerit points for cameras at the moment - I don't doubt for a second that that will change though.