Imaginative Location of L Plate

[Dodger]

Sigh,
All going well I'll have my bike this weekend. and then have the joys of trying to fit the L plate. (going for a new Hyosung GT250)

Whats the fine for not displaying it, compeared to the fine for riding at 100kph with one?

[McJim]

Sigh,
All going well I'll have my bike this weekend. and then have the joys of trying to fit the L plate. (going for a new Hyosung GT250)

Whats the fine for not displaying it, compeared to the fine for riding at 100kph with one?

I think it's the same for both - I actually started a thread asking just that.

The offence is "Breaching the conditions of your licence" the fine is $400 and 25 demerit points...oh and you lose the chance to fast track your way to a full licence with the 'approved course'

(the approved course being entirely cage orientated. Since I've been driving a cage for ages - I'm a 36 year old dude - that won't pose a problem for me but won't make me a better rider either.)

[Dodger]

Well once I get the bike it will have the L plate.
But there's no way in hell I'm doing 70kph on a 100kph motorway. "I choose life"

[McJim]

Well once I get the bike it will have the L plate.
But there's no way in hell I'm doing 70kph on a 100kph motorway. "I choose life"

Yep there's a time and a place. As I've said in another thread they're trying to keep learners off motorways but simply don't have the balls to say "No Learners on Motorways" so they just make it deadly to use 'em legally and hope all the 15-18 year olds (that's who the 70kph and curfew rules are aimed at protecting!) are clever enough to take the hint.

I always ride to the conditions and go with the flow for safety's sake. My life is worth more than $400.

[Hawkeye]

I've scanned the Road Code a number of times and have yet to find anywhere that states ' you must do more than 70k on a Motorway '. Therefore, where does it state that I can't go on the Motorway?

[Dodger]

Well there's nothing stopping you from doing 70kph on a motorway.
Apart from the 200 other cars that are doing 100-120kph and getting pissed off at you that is.
Being on a bike, I think I want to avoid all the road rage I can, thank you.

[McJim]

I've scanned the Road Code a number of times and have yet to find anywhere that states ' you must do more than 70k on a Motorway '. Therefore, where does it state that I can't go on the Motorway?

It doesn't. The point is the people who created this legislation did so to prevent Learners from using the motorways. It doesn't work. Specifically banning Learners from certain roads would have worked better but the person with that idea (allegedly) got outvoted by the other Quangos.
Therefore we are saddled with an inappropriate and downright dangerous piece of legislation that is potentially deadly when observed to the letter.

[mazz1972]

My L plate is prominently affixed on the rear, with velcro, and it hasn't fallen off yet (not going fast enough??). It's all very well being "imaginative" in where you place it, but if the cops can't see it, you'll get a ticket anyway...

I'd rather keep the $400 and put it towards my next bike. Also I don't want the demerit points to stop me fast tracking my full licence when the time comes.

However that doesn't mean I will be riding at 70kmph if it's not safe, so I always risk getting a ticket for that.

The joys of the big L...

[FilthyLuka]

hmm, best place for a l plate... on the back of your helmet. Upside down. so it looks like a spastic 7...

Denis

[WarlockNZ]

It doesn't. The point is the people who created this legislation did so to prevent Learners from using the motorways. It doesn't work. Specifically banning Learners from certain roads would have worked better but the person with that idea (allegedly) got outvoted by the other Quangos.
Therefore we are saddled with an inappropriate and downright dangerous piece of legislation that is potentially deadly when observed to the letter.

What about learner cage drivers?? ... they pose a biger risk to road users than bikers .. i'll tell you what grinds my gears ... that if you are behind the wheel of a car you can do the posted speed limit.. but get on a bike and oh no! .. we are going to make you a hazzard to other road users ... doing 70 on the motorway is just asking for death .. bikers unite I say ... there must be a way to get the law changed ... oh yeah .. there is ... it's called a petition .. if enough people want to make a change to the law then the people who make the laws can't turn a blind eye.

[McJim]

What about learner cage drivers?? ... they pose a biger risk to road users than bikers .. i'll tell you what grinds my gears ... that if you are behind the wheel of a car you can do the posted speed limit.. but get on a bike and oh no! .. we are going to make you a hazzard to other road users ... doing 70 on the motorway is just asking for death .. bikers unite I say ... there must be a way to get the law changed ... oh yeah .. there is ... it's called a petition .. if enough people want to make a change to the law then the people who make the laws can't turn a blind eye.

As I've said - all we need to do is have 300 motorcycles meet up and keep clogging the motorway at 70kph - we won't be breaking the law but will certainly get noticed!

[Quartida]

It's all very well being "imaginative" in where you place it, but if the cops can't see it, you'll get a ticket anyway...

Ah yes, but how will they know you're a learner without the "L"?

And therein lies the genius.

[QUOTE=Big McJim;726062]Saw a Hyosung GT250 Comet going up College Hill ...QUOTE]

I had a similar giggle at that same bike (I think) as it drove past me yesterday. "Not a bad idea," I thought, 'til I realised that, if I had managed to see it, then likely a police officer would too - and then you're more in the crap because they KNOW you're a learner and that your plate is on incorrectly...

[Koni]

my first time on the motorway i found way easier then on a normal road with roundabouts and dodgy stuff like that. Your going in a straight line, easy peasy. Doing 70kmph is a stupid idea and will likely cause a lot more problems then driving the normal kmph a car gets to do.

[hamie1]

Mine is under the seat, the velcro dots are there. If I (when I) get pulled up I'm sure the lack of a yellow L will be low on the "I'm sorry..." list, don't care if you can't see it or anyone else. The problem I have, is people not being as careful of you because you have a yellow L on the back of your bike.

[lukelin250]

i dont use an l-plate and i did get fined for it (though not under best circumstances cause the cop was pist he had to chase me at 180km/h) i still dont use one cause i just dont see the point aswell as clear space to put the thing. but ayhow my friend tucks his under his number plate, all you can see is the fucking edges poking out,yet when he got pulled over and the copper asked if he had one, when shown the policeman didnt seem to care it wasnt clearly visible but was just content with it being there. so case in hand i say WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER HAVING A L PLATE?????