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    Changing gears without clutch

    is it bad for the bike to change gears without using the clutch? sometimes i just tap the gear lever and it changes gear really easily

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    i do it all the time, i never use the clutch when out racing etc etc
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    Some manufacturers are way ahead of you...

    http://www.motorcycledaily.com/26may...ha_fjr1300.htm
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    I have started not using the clutch a lot now, only from 2 gear up. I use it when changing down. I reckon it does'nt feel as smooth clutchless, but dunno, could be me.

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    Hmmm

    I always thought it would stuff up the gear thingys, like shave the teeth or something but what would i know.

    I have done it without thinking before, didnt seem natural though

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    Cue some SafetyNazi(TM) saying, "No!! You should never change gears without using the clutch! Your bike will blow up! Your gearbox will explode! You'll crash, explode and die a grisly and painful death!!"

    Bring it on, I say....

    Yeah, I often change gear without using the clutch, and when I do use the clutch, it's usually (and unintentionally) just a quick 'triggering' or fanning of the lever, just enough to momentarily unload the gears so the next cog can be engaged.

    But having an Factory Pro Evo Star shift kit helps me do that...
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Like Dooly says, from 2nd up is sweet.
    Doing it to change down, not so sweet.

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    I'm with Dooly and Suglite on this one. I've noticed that some bikes are a little (or a lot) clunky and wouldn't do it on those particular ones, otherwisw only way to go.
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    I mostly change up and down without the clutch on my Honda...but that could have something to do with my sloppy box. It just slips down through the gears really easily.

    The ZXR is a different story though. Ok shifting up but need the clutch on the downshifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    ...but that could have something to do with my sloppy box.
    Cringes visibly while waiting for the inevitable double entendres...
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    Goes to look up "entendres"....
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    Ha, I go up and down the box at cruise speed and on attack without the clutch and never have had any gearbox issues. It's all in the timing of the change and the flick of the wrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Ha, I go up and down the box at cruise speed and on attack without the clutch and never have had any gearbox issues. It's all in the timing of the change and the flick of the wrist.
    YOUR CLUTCH WILL LAST LONGER IF YOU DONT USE IT , REENGAGING 6 TIMES GOING UP IS GONNA CAUSE MORE WEAR AND YOU CAN STOP A CLUCTH THATS ALREADY PRONE TO BLOWING FROM DOING SO , USING NO CLUTCH IS WORTH ABOUT 1/4 OF A SECOND OR MORE ROUND PUKE, I THINK IT IS BETTER FOR THE BOX AS WELL IN A WAY CAUSE YOU NEED TO BE PERFECTLY UNLOADED ON THE SHIFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA View Post
    YOUR CLUTCH WILL LAST LONGER IF YOU DONT USE IT , REENGAGING 6 TIMES GOING UP IS GONNA CAUSE MORE WEAR AND YOU CAN STOP A CLUCTH THATS ALREADY PRONE TO BLOWING FROM DOING SO , USING NO CLUTCH IS WORTH ABOUT 1/4 OF A SECOND OR MORE ROUND PUKE, I THINK IT IS BETTER FOR THE BOX AS WELL IN A WAY CAUSE YOU NEED TO BE PERFECTLY UNLOADED ON THE SHIFT
    +1. I've never replaced a clutch in my life on a bike.

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    I'm unaware of any manufacturer that recommends clutchless shifts up or down. In a race situation where seconds count it may mean the difference between first into the line or second. If you have a sponsor then they can pay the price tage for a new g/box On the road it's an image thing. Sounds cool but who the hell cares if you can not see who you are impressing.

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